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tdg119

Social climber

Northampton, PA

Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 28, 2013 - 09:00pm PT

Obviously not everyone wants to explore these avenues and I completely understand that, but I have so many people emailing so many different things, so...

Rec'd a new one. Was interested to see if anyone who knows the area knows of any actual existence of the some of the fixtures mentioned towards the end:

"I've talked with three other clairvoyant mediums and showed them a photo of Matt. Each one said that they felt he's deceased, was incredibly thirsty, and fell down a cliff, ravine, etc. One suggested foul play, but I vehemently disagree. I'm definitely feeling like this isn't a homicide or anything along those lines.

Interestingly enough, I had a dream of Matt on a dark colored mountain side with no trees. It wasn't particularly steep, but he was climbing upwards and as he climbed reached a more "cliff-like" mountain side. In the vision, he fell back, tumbled, and dropped out of sight.

As I had this vision, he mentioned the blue diamond, blue crystal, etc. and mentioned a play on words. With no idea as to what this could mean, I consulted my resources and found this:

Blue Square - Considered “intermediate” trails that are steeper than beginner trails yet easy enough for intermediate skiers to ski on, Blue Square trails aren't extremely steep. They are popular trails at most resorts because they provide skiing that’s fun but not scary. Generally groomed, some Blue Square trails have easy moguls or extremely easy glades.

Black Diamond - Difficult trails that are for advanced skiers. Black Diamond trails can be steep, narrow, or ungroomed. Other challenges, such as icy conditions, may cause a trail to be marked as a Black Diamond. Most glades and mogul trails are Black Diamonds.

In my personal opinion, I feel it's a play on words. The Blue part of "Blue Square" and the Diamond part of "Black Diamond". Essentially, he may be combining the meanings of both to give an idea of the terrain he's in. Basically, he'd be in an area that would be considered "intermediate" and not incredibly steep, with a portion that would be steep, narrow, and ungroomed (as well as potentially icy). It happened to fit my vision from earlier, so I felt it was noteworthy.

Something to think about. In the Facebook photo that was taken of the glasses that were found, on the right lense there's a clear reflection of the back of a man's head wearing a blue baseball cap. Struck me as an eerie coincidence -- most likely just someone else present while the photo was being taken. Nonetheless, there are so many odd little coincidences.

From where I saw him standing as he looked out at the peaks, it was clear that he was either on a large trail or un-paved road. There was a wooden "fence" nearby (best way I can describe it, it was very short and thick). Maybe a railing of some sort to keep people on path. I didn't see anything happen to him at the time, except that I heard screaming and woke up with terrible back pain.

As I was laying down, Matt came through and showed me a map. On this map, he showed me Mammoth Crest, and said that he had a profound interest in going here. He again showed me two prominent mountains beside one another.

There are two areas I'm interested in searching -- unfortunately, they're in two very different areas. He didn't show me a body, but he did say he had intended to visit the Mountain Crest area before heading West to some of the other peaks at another time. In the vision, he said he wasn't well-equipped to do anything too dangerous, he said he wanted to play it smart and do things "the right way".

The other area I'm interested in is North of his camp-ground, but he hasn't given me any signs referring to that as of yet, therefore my primary focus is in the Mountain Crest area (south), and a bit as west as well (heading toward some of the peaks he was interested in scoping out.)

He'd briefly mentioned "Glass Greek", however I didn't get a clear view on why it was of importance. For now, I'll stick with the information about the southern location, and if all else fails, I'll see if he can show me anything about the Inyo area.

The rail/fencing was really interesting. I saw it alongside a trail, and it was built really interestingly. It was a rugged fence that appeared to be made of oak or some other wood. It wasn't painted, and wasn't very tall. It had been there for awhile, as in this wasn't a newly built rail. It was older, worn, and very natural. No paint whatsoever.

In the vision of Matt falling, it looked like he may have been substantially close to a dome or dome-like mountain. Within yards, honestly. I didn't see it "full on" but based on the surrounding terrain, the dome suggestion might be useful. "

So...any thoughts?
~ Tiffany

LAhiker

Social climber

Los Angeles

Aug 28, 2013 - 09:33pm PT

Tiffany,

Very interesting. I don't know the area, but using Google, I notice there's a "Glass Creek" campground, meadow, and trail in the Inyo National Forest, I believe in the vicinity of the Inyo-Mono Craters (!). According to Wikipedia, there are a bunch of craters and domes there, including Obsidian Dome, Glass Creek Dome, Deadman's Summit Dome, etc. I don't know whether they're big enough and look dome-like enough to be the "domed mountain" the person saw, but it sounds promising. They seem abrupt and well-defined; hence one could be a few yards away.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono%E2%80%93Inyo_Craters

I don't know why Matt would have brought his Sportiva's, ice axe, and crampons to that area, unless he was on his way somewhere else, but all of this sure is spooky. (It becomes less spooky if this clairvoyant or the others knew about each other's dreams/visions, of course.)

(I wonder whether the two prominent peaks were Banner and Ritter. Do you get a good view of them from the area near Glass Creek and Obsidian Domes?)

Maybe Donna from Mammoth can help with this. She's very familiar with the area, and she and a guy named Tyler over on the FB page were thinking of Mammoth Crest. Maybe she will recognize the particular railing or barrier that was mentioned. I will call this thread to her attention.

(BTW, I had thought "blue diamond" or "blue crystal" might refer to the markers on the "Blue Diamond Trials" cross-country ski routes, or to Crystal Crag or Blue Couloir or something. But maybe it could be a play on words of some sort...)

Klimmer

Mountain climber

Aug 28, 2013 - 09:50pm PT

Aug 28, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
My dream was Matt holding a long crystal, almost clear whitish blue, about 2.5 feet long. it was less about a diamond, but had A Gem like quality, like a big solid icicle. He was standing up, no hat or helmet, he looked good, like he was not injured or anything, just standing there. Like he was trying to hand me the crystal but was too far away and just could not reach me. Then i woke up, it was intense, it woke me up with a sense of panic. I quickly went back to sleep. No backpack, that I remember, a tee shirt on, with bare arms.

I have never been to or even heard of mammoth lakes before this. The next day I just put the 3 things into google ( crystal, gem and Mammoth lakes). I was surprised to see so many places pop up, gem lake, crystal mountain, crystal lake, etc.. My immediate reaction was this is it, it's crystal lake, but everyone said there is no snow there, it's well traveled, etc. and it just did not fit the facts. So I dismissed it.

When I first saw the glasses, I did not really feel this was what I dreamed or that it was related. but I was surprised by the similarities and hard time dismissing it. I did get excited that we had a strong potential lead. I was the first person to call Alex when he found them, and I said "dude, I have to ask, did you plant these?" The similarities seemed too perfect. he said no way man I'm not like that, and I believe him.

Last week I had another weird dream, it was like I was half awake, half asleep. I felt possessed, I was on my back but could not move my arms or legs. I remember saying "tiff","tiff".

Also last week, I went to Matt's house to go through all his stuff, nothing seemed unusual. Except I found a bag of arrow heads (like old Indian ones) they seemed to pull on me. A few days later while looking at the maps I noticed crystal lake was shaped like an arrow head and I thought wow that's weird. I dismissed it as a coincidence, again it did not fit the facts.

First off, I don't believe in this psychic mumbo jumbo. Secondly, I am only reporting this because we really have nothing to go on and we are grasping at straws, so what the hell...
-Ron

Aug 28, 2013 - 06:37pm PT
Ron,

Thank you very much. You have said a great deal.

(I have to wear an armored suit of Teflon and asbestos around here just to survive.)

Sharing the dreams in detail, that is what I hope RM217 can do also. And perhaps the student who had Matt as a teacher.

My fellow teachers/colleagues we went back to school today.

I think about Matt often, though I don't know him. We're both teachers and climbers.

I'm sad for everyone.

Klimmer

Mountain climber

Aug 29, 2013 - 12:19am PT

The words that stand out to me are:

Blue Crystal (gem like)

Arrow heads

tiff

Again, where the glasses were found near Inyo Craters, we have the blue-diamond trail system. Also nearby we have Obsidian Dome, that has provided obsidian material for Native North Americans in the region for 1000s of years. There are arrowheads throughout the nearby region, although getting harder to find now. But there are areas that have a tremendous amount of obsidian chipping material from the making of arrowheads. Tiff could indicate images. It could also indicate Tuff, an extrusive igneous volcanic rock and there is plenty nearby.

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber

extraordinaire

Aug 29, 2013 - 12:37am PT

the blue-diamond trail system

is a cross-country skiing trail - part of it goes thru, or very close to Shady Rest campground. The markers are visible on trees there.

crusher

climber

Santa Monica, CA

Aug 29, 2013 - 12:58am PT

Glass creek area is off 395, a bit further north from town on the way to june lake. No snow or ice there now.
I'm not inclined to think Matt would go there...there are hikes but it's not mountaineering per se. Plus not so close that he'd want to walk there. Interesting connection though.

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber

extraordinaire

Aug 29, 2013 - 01:08am PT

Some pics off the internet of Blue Crag

LAhiker

Social climber

Los Angeles

Aug 29, 2013 - 01:24am PT

Thanks, Crusher! While I initially thought about Obsidian Dome and places near there (which have domes and crystal-like rocks), I'm not sure those domes even look that dome-like. Also, it sounds like the clairvoyant focused a lot on the Mammoth Crest area.

It's certainly true that the images of Matt falling could be a lot of places, though to someone familiar with the area, the details might trigger some specific thoughts.

Donna, a day hiker from Mammoth who is very familiar with the area, looked at this thread and posted the following thoughts about it on FB

The blue diamonds are some kind of trail markers, all over hiking areas on trees. (Not the same as the blue that marks intermediate skiing trails). Crystal? Well the mammoth crest trail is the same as the crystal lake trail. You stay on the trail to get to mammoth crest. Experienced hikers, not me, can keep going to Deer lakes. The bare tree area? May be Horse shoe lake, which leads to McLeod, which leads to reds meadow and other back country. No ice axe required and the areas are popular for day hikers

Though others may have had blue diamond dreams, in Ron's dream, Matt isn't holding a neat little blue diamond like those markers. He's holding a big blue-white crystal. And as Donna remarks above, "the mammoth crest trail is the same as the crystal lake trail." So the question is, could the images refer to Crystal Crag or Crystal Lake? She posted these links:

http://www.mammothtrails.org/destination/41/crystal-crag/#directionsTab
(Crystal Crag was also suggested by rottingjohnny on the other thread.)

Donna remarked on the following link: "Haven't been this summer, but there is usually still snow up high mid July."
http://www.mammothtrails.org/experience/2/hiking-to-crystal-lake/

If the clairvoyant that Tiffany quotes is onto something, the wooden fence might be a giveaway... Does that fence, wide trail, and view sound
familiar to anyone?

ETA: Biotch, those are awesome pictures of Blue Crag!

crusher

climber

Santa Monica, CA

Aug 29, 2013 - 01:53am PT

The blue diamond marked trail (not to be confused with a ski run on mammoth mountain) runs from at least the village area (right, biotch?) all the way up to minaret summit. I've mountain biked it. Also goes down that same trail system to mono craters. However, there's no climbing, mountaineering, ice there. It's trail through forest running mostly parallel to the paved road up to main lodge and min. Summit. That's the blue diamond shaped "tag" you see stuck to the trees as in the photo of the glasses from the craters. trail markers.

The interesting thing is that many of these dream or vision words coincide with places or things one would see or that exist in this area - like they are things Matt experienced being there. Not necessarily where he is but they are part of what he just experienced having spent so much time in Mammoth. I'm not sure what to make of it, hopefully time will tell.

LAhiker

Social climber

Los Angeles

Aug 29, 2013 - 02:10am PT

Crusher and others, what about Mammoth Crest -- especially Blue Crag, Blue Couloir, or Crystal Crag -- as possible destinations?

(Matt had apparently gone solo to Mammoth Crest on July 12, but I don't know if it's known exactly what climbs he did there.)

crusher

climber

Santa Monica, CA

Aug 29, 2013 - 02:30am PT

Crystal crag is a rock climb and while there could be a bit of snow left at its base it's not something you'd need the mountaineering boots, axe or crampons for. Neither do I think you'd need them for anything on the crest right now. I don't know about blue couloir - a local needs to answer about that. Crystal crag is pretty regularly climbed so you'd think someone would have seen something out of the ordinary. It's got about 3 routes that go to the top (and sport bolted routes that don't go to top). The routes that top out I think are all 5.7 or 5.8 and have loose rock, you'd want a helmet and it's also a trad route (meaning you'd be carrying gear and have a partner for belaying). I'm sure people solo it but it seems like the ratings are higher than what matt would have historically done solo...and again no need for the mountaineering gear he presumably took. This is all IMHO!

tdg119

Social climber

Northampton, PA

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2013 - 07:45am PT

when i look at that map from tioga everything in the area is called crystal lake, emerald lake (gem), arrow head lake. these things all fit the dream stuff but not the fact stuff (ice ax, etc..).

We found nothing at the 'fact' sites, maybe is worth checking these areas. Seems too weird that a person like me (im usually the first one to dismiss this stuff) to see all this stuff in a area i have no idea of.

also a seperate psuchic told us she saw an "arrow pointing northwest" When i look at the map, arrow head lake is almost a perfect arrow pointing north west.

again, if i really believed in any of this i would be the first one on a plane out there. BUT too much here to be a coin-i-key-dink...im getting ready to go, is there someone that can check this area before i fly across the country?
~Ron

OutdoorGal

Social climber

Lehigh Valley, PA

Aug 29, 2013 - 10:35am PT

Hi, all. A couple posters had mentioned Blue Couloir/Blue Crag in the other thread, and I reposted it with interest, but it seemed to be dismissed as someplace Matt would not go. But who knows. It is, according to the poster below, easily accessible and doable from Shady Rest. I think it's near the Mammoth Crest area where Matt had been before (someone local can confirm this; I am not familiar with the area), so maybe he'd feel comfortable hiking back there solo. Did he see Blue Crag from Mammoth Crest and decide he might want to climb it? And most important, the posts below state that Matt would have encountered snow and ice at Blue Couloir, and it's thought that he set out on the 17th equipped for snow and ice. Finally, there are the dream and psychic references with "blue" in them. Blue crystal, blue diamond, etc. I was curious where Blue Couloir was, so I tried to find it on a map, and when I did, I was interested to find, as others have mentioned, geographical features with names like Crystal Lake and Crystal Crag. Maybe these are features he could have passed by on his hike to Blue Couloir? Anyway, just thought it might be worth reposting this info for reference as people are brainstorming....

POSTS FROM EASTSIDE UNDERGROUND
Blue couliar is where I would go if I wanted to test out ice gear/ boots. Very easy approach, not to far out there and one could round trip from shady without shuttle. decievingly steep and definately will find neve/ice, certianly alot closer than the Ritter range which would be a huge day from shady imo. Just an idea, who knows? Good luck

tdg119, in answer to your question, closest is Blue couliar probally under 10 mi from shady and a relatively easy approach.

Blue couliar is located on the south -east end of the mammoth creast . easily viewed from the lakes basin. out of cold water trail head take the trail to emeral lake up towards Hamil . Blue crag is the prominate feature you see on the crest looking SE. from Mammoth Mt. If Mattew was a solid ice climber blue couliar probably would not hold any interest to him, it's just the closest ice to town that I can think of, Bloody is bone dry, after a couple of poor winters only the most north facing are holding snow /ice. Sorry I don't have any photos on my computer. Cheers

POST FROM ß Î Ø T Ç H:
eastside underground's comments about the Blue Crag area has merit. Years ago I almost bought the farm there on the lower snowfield. The fact that Matt had already been climbing/ hiking Mammoth Crest - he may have been attracted back for a closer look at the interesting rock, and ice over there. It seems to me that it would be a fairly easy outing for a search party to head up the Duck Pass trail, and then back NW toward several good vantage points on the ridge overlooking the Blue Crag area, to have a look with binocs etc.

One question: Are "Blue Crag" and "Blue Couloir" one and the same? I assumed they were and used both names in my post but don't want to create confusion.

RM217

climber

Aug 29, 2013 - 11:37am PT

Sharing the dreams in detail, that is what I hope RM217 can do also. And perhaps the student who had Matt as a teacher.

I'll detail the dream as best as possible and also my thoughts right before I fell asleep and right after I woke up.

My dream occured approx 3 weeks ago, but not sure of what day exactly. I think if the date was significant I would have remembered. I did have Matt and the family on my mind when I went to sleep. I specifically thought of Matt's Mom (even though I have never met her and don't know what she even looks like), but, as a mother myself, I thought of her. (And that is not to dismiss the pain from any other family member...because I know this is painful for EVERYONE). Just trying to be detailed here. I don't know if there is any significance at all.

I prayed and actually think I fell asleep during prayer.

In my dream:

I layed down to go to sleep. I was laying on my left side and looking at a window that was off center to the right of a wall. The window frame was white. The wall around the window was white. The window had panes. It was 9 panes, and then it seemed I refocused and saw only 4 panes. There were no curtains, no blind. It was dark outside the window and I couldn't see anything outside except darkness. It wasn't quite black, just seemed dark. I closed my eyes and fell asleep. I awoke abruptly and my eyes were still focused on the window, only the window seemed to be more centered on the wall and closer. I could no longer see the wall around the window, just the window and its frame. And this time, it was just one window, square (with no inside panes). It was brighter outside now, but not like daylight (no sun/sky). It seemed to take a minute to focus on what I was seeing. (Almost like focusing a camera lens). Then the image became very focused. Very vivid. There was a very large tree that covered probably more than 50% of the right side of the window. The tree was unusual because it had a variety of leaves/needles. The "pine" needles I saw were those that were long and well separated from each other. (Looked like this - just an image I googled - http://thehealthyhavenblog.com/2012/10/11/suggested-uses-for-pine-needle-essential-oil/); That was what really stood out in the tree. It was very detailed. I could even see the ridges in the stems. There were other leaves, that I could not identify. Colors were green, different shades, but mostly dark green and shades of brown. I was struck by the vividness and it was then that I realized it was so detailed because the glass was so clean, so clear. Crystal clear. I remember thinking that I had never seen such clear glass. And It was eerily quiet. At first I felt scared. But, I realized it was only quiet on the inside of the room. (I don't know if that meant it wasn't quiet on the outside of the window). It seemed spooky to have this very large tree so close to the window. But, as I stared, my fear seemed to subside. I saw the beauty of the tree and suddenly felt safe. And I felt like I wanted to reach out and touch it. But, I couldn't. I was still lying down. (I was lying down during my entire dream...I saw everything outside the window sideways, as if laying down). And the glass, even though clear, was a barrier. The window appeared to not be able to be opened. I scanned the window. And to the upper left of the tree I saw the blue diamond. And it immediately grabbed me and captivated me. It was bright/shiny. At first, I even thought it was a mirror, but it was blue. A bright (but not dark) shiny blue. It was like the color of the sky (on a bright day). It was in the shape of a diamond (not like a ring, but like the shape). It was not "vertical" but rather "horizontal", like a sideways diamond. It was significantly smaller than the tree. The diamond shape itself was not as "sharp" (and by this I mean in focus) as the tree was. (Infact, the edges were not a straight smooth edge like you would have if you drew a diamond with a pencil.) It was a softer edge, but nevertheless, I had a strong sense of it being a diamond. I did not see a sky, however, it almost seemed like the diamond may have been formed by the break in the branches of the trees. The view of the outside from the window was full coverage. The whole window had an image. On the left side, there were more trees and it seemed off center to the left was perhaps a well-beaten dirt path. The other trees/path seemed out of focus (almost like taking a close-up picture of something and everything else in the background is out of focus. My thoughts were that part of the images was just a "filler" and insignificant.)

When I woke up:

I had an overwhelming feeling that this was about Matt. Although Matt himself was never in my dream, this pertained to him, is what I felt. And as much as I tried to discount the dream, it weighed heavy on my heart, so much so, that I risked being made fun of by my son, and told him about the dream. I know absolutely nothing of Mammoth Lakes. But, we googled Mammoth Lakes and Blue Diamond and the search returned a map that started at Shady Rest Campground and showed the surrounding trails. That gave me goosebumps. And what gave me goosebumps even more was when I emailed Tiffany to tell her about my dream (after she talked about they psychic) and then learned her husband also dreamed of a blue crystal/diamond. And later that night, I learned of a third dream by a former student about a blue crystal (which I will post after this one, so as not to confuse the dream).

Overall - in my dream, there were 3 significant things. The glass (so clean, crystal clear), the tree, the diamond. All else seemed to me to be irrelevant (but I detailed it here as best I could incase something picks up on something that may be important). From beginning to end, that was my dream and it couldn't have lasted more than a few moments, but in my dream it did feel as though I was looking out the window for a very long time.

The top off moment is... the irony of that the picture that was posted of the found of the eyeglasses. It had all 3 elements of what stood out in my dream... the glass (although glasses were scratched and dirty, completely opposite of my dream), the trees, the blue diamond.

I don't know what this means if it means anything at all...I have tried to reason with myself and make sense of it. But, I just can't.

LAhiker

Social climber

Los Angeles

Aug 29, 2013 - 01:05pm PT

RM217, interesting dream! If possible, I'd like to also hear about the one the student had.

OutdoorGal, I'm not familiar with the area, but according to Wikipedia, a couloir is "is a narrow gully with a steep gradient in a mountainous terrain." And a crag is a small peak or outcropping. I think that Blue Couloir is next to Blue Crag (someone has posted pictures of of Blue Crag above).

Here's someone's report of a hike to Blue Couloir in August of 2006:
http://highwire.stanford.edu/~galic/hiking/mammoth2006/crest.html

OutdoorGal

Social climber

Lehigh Valley, PA

Aug 29, 2013 - 01:16pm PT

Wow, beautiful views (including Mammoth Mountain) from the couloir in that trip report. Thanks for posting your reply and that link. One sentence stood out to me from it (and this was August, albeit 2006):

"Plenty of soft snow in the midday. Ice axe and crampons are convenient on the steepest part."

RM217

climber

Aug 29, 2013 - 01:48pm PT

Blue Square - Considered “intermediate” trails that are steeper than beginner trails yet easy enough for intermediate skiers to ski on, Blue Square trails aren't extremely steep. They are popular trails at most resorts because they provide skiing that’s fun but not scary. Generally groomed, some Blue Square trails have easy moguls or extremely easy glades.

Black Diamond - Difficult trails that are for advanced skiers. Black Diamond trails can be steep, narrow, or ungroomed. Other challenges, such as icy conditions, may cause a trail to be marked as a Black Diamond. Most glades and mogul trails are Black Diamonds.

Don't want to discount anyone or anything...but RE: Blue Square/ Black Diamond, imho, this was not the feeling that I felt at all. To me, it seems contradictory and confusing. Now, in high school, I was EASILY confused by my math teacher, but I feel if these dreams mean anything at all, it wouldn't be a harder puzzle than it would have to be to figure out. (Unless Matt has a great big sense of humor)... And this relates to ski trails, not hiking trails, so I have to wonder if it would be that confusing? I didn't get the feeling in my dream that this was a play on words. I almost feel that while the diamond/crystal part is significant somehow, that the blue is even moreso important. The color is what popped out and made me notice. And overall, from everything I have seen/heard/read, it seems like intermediate to advanced trails may describe most mountain areas in that area. (Depending on routes taken).

This is interesting... Take a look at this video. I wanted to get a clearer understanding of how Mammoth Lakes looked... trees, sky, etc. So, I have been googling images and such. I came across this video and when I read this about the fence, I thought of this video. At 2:26 of this video, there is a trail lined on either side by what looks like unpainted fallen trees - they appear to not have any bark on them at all.

And as I looked at the video again, something caught my eye. If you stop at 11 seconds you will see a forested area. Almost directly in the middle is a "blue" area. As the video zooms in, it annotates "Lake Mary." This is similar to my "window" and how the blue appeared to be in my dream. That's what I meant when I said it looked like the blue could have been formed from the sky by a break in the tree branches. In my dream, the image was full...there was no "sky" - just blue peeking through. The rest of the space was filled with trees/branches/leaves. And my blue diamond was a little higher, closer to the top of the trees. Not sure if that matters.

I don't remember any talk about "Duck Pass," in any of the posts here, but it does appear that there are areas close by where Matt would have been able to use crampons/boots. I don't know how accessible those areas are via the place where the video was taken. And I don't know where Duck Pass is in relation to Shady Rest. Seems like "Mammoth Mountain" is quite a distance away by an annotation that was inserted into the video.

Anyway: here is video...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-54HvLOBnM

(sorry these posts are so long)

RM217

climber

Aug 29, 2013 - 01:52pm PT

RM217, interesting dream! If possible, I'd like to also hear about the one the student had.

Was going to post it earlier, but I was hoping that the student would post, however, not able to get hold of him.

But, his dream was this:

He saw Matt slide down side of mountain on rocks (rocks that would allow one to slide) on his backside, feet first. He came to rest at the bottom of the hill and behind Matt was a large rock or boulder that was made of some sort of blue crystal.

I do not know the details and if there might be anything else. I will see if there is a way that I can reach him and he can post with details (if there is any other details).

RM217

climber

Aug 29, 2013 - 01:59pm PT

He'd briefly mentioned "Glass Greek", however I didn't get a clear view on why it was of importance. For now, I'll stick with the information about the southern location, and if all else fails, I'll see if he can show me anything about the Inyo area.

Also in the youtube video, there is footage of a creek... very clear as in transparent. But, I would imagine most creeks look like that out there???