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Mountain Man

Trad climber
Outer space
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 7, 2006 - 05:00pm PT
How they vote in the United Nations:



Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations records:



Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time



Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time



Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time



United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.



Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.



Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.



Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.



Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.



Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.



Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.



Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.



Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.



Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.



Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.



Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.



India votes against the United States 81% of the time.



Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.



Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.



U S Foreign Aid to those that hate us:



Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United States, still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.



Jordan votes 71% against the United States



And receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.



Pakistan votes 75% against the United States



Receives $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.



India votes 81% against the United States



Receives $143,699,000 annually.



Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back to the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes (and gasoline).



Pass this along to every taxpaying citizen you know.



Disgusting isn't it?

nature

climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:02pm PT
yeah, it really is disgusting what we're doing as a nation to have all those great nations vote against us.
Landgolier

climber
the flatness
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:03pm PT
other than bribing the Egyptians and the Israelis to not vaporize each other, the rest of foreign aid is peanuts. Most of it is set up so they spend it on US-produced goods anyway.
sketchy

Trad climber
Vagrant
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:04pm PT
Wow, we pay our jizyas like good little dhimmis and they still dont like us. hard to figure
caughtinside

Social climber
Davis, CA
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:07pm PT
I am no fan of the UN, but I'd be interested to see what % of votes against us other non-arab countrys have. I bet most euros are over 50% as well, seeing as how we tend to be on the outs with the UN most of the time.
dirtbag

climber
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:07pm PT
MM, if you're going to troll us could you please at least have the decency to post something original rather than cut and paste something from some right-wing rag?
Trashman

Trad climber
SLC
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:12pm PT
never happen dirtbag. get's his kicks starting the reddest of redneck topics, then just watches the liberals get pissed.

pretty short list, really

ignore button

T*R
ragmeat
MM

jody doesn't even bug me enough to get on the list
atchafalaya

Trad climber
California
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:20pm PT
mm, your too used to watching your party buy votes. I would be more interedted in seeing some of the subject matter voted on, then the votes... post it if you got it.
dirtbag

climber
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:21pm PT
Yeah, you're right Trashman. Give him the ol' ragmeat treatment.
426

Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:23pm PT
Where's france, we all know how you hate them...

b4 you get too far, think communist islands, buddy...and do look at that mil budg/big oil subsidies before you talk about "fiscal conservatism", eh?
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:27pm PT
to paraphrase the esteemed WB_

MountainMan=Idiot






at least fatfucc acknowledges that if you intend for these contries to be compliant rather than vote their own interests, you are ghoing to have to invade and occupy them perpetually.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:34pm PT
I wonder how many of those votes are also against Israel?
Josh Higgins

Trad climber
San Diego
Jul 7, 2006 - 05:56pm PT
There are three types of lies:

Lies,

damned lies,

and Statistics.

What the hell does that mean "votes against the US?" What a contrived, retarted statistic to throw out there. How often do we vote against them? WTF? That dribble means almost nothing in the complete lack of context.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jul 7, 2006 - 06:22pm PT
I see that Jody's "good angel" has still not packed his bags for Guatamala? The RuSHA (Race and Resettlement Office) sent him his notice weeks ago.
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
Jul 8, 2006 - 12:22am PT
fatso- why don't you and i meet up face to face in some parking lot somewhere and see who shoves what up what hairy ass? you're bigger than me and think you're a cop'n stuff, so you have nothing to be afraid of, right? you are all talk pal, just a bag of wind, nothing more. why don't you step outside and put your ass where your mouth is?

i'll even let you say "one two three go" before i kick your viagra filled nuts right up into your throat.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jul 8, 2006 - 01:51am PT
Talk about money's worth...The US gets veto power on the security council. the only UN body that can apply sanctions and authorize military force. If we quit the UN, the security council could sanction the US for doing the kind of things that other nations get sanctioned for, like invading other countries without just cause.

In fact, it's the undemocratic veto power of the major powers that keeps the UN powerless.

I'm embarrassed the number of times UN general assembly votes come up like 170 for and 2 against and the 2 being US and Israel (sometimes some practically unpopulated Islands join us)

Of course the whole world is wrong and we are right...Right!

Peace

Karl
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jul 8, 2006 - 12:17pm PT
Jody, pure selfishness breeds limited results. Go back to church.

Fatty, pure selfishness breeds limited results. Maybe if we pretended we couldn't just twist everybody's arm and force our will on them, things would work out better since we never seem to be able to learn it through repeated hard experience.

And dude..invading one of the most secular Arab countries and turning into an Islamic state is no way to moderate radical Islam. That's like thinking the radicals attacked the World Trade Center to moderate US foreign policy rather than get a reaction.

The golden rule actually works. We really should try it sometime

peace

karl
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jul 8, 2006 - 01:06pm PT
Lois I'll find your other post and read it but what you have written here is enough to write volumes about. You are letting your fear blind you.

The law of the jungle fails if you get the whole jungle hating you in the process.

Let's say somebody in your neighborhood shoots your dog at night because you've been driving over all the lawn in the neighborhood in your SUV. You know the driver came from the red house but learned to drive at the yellow house. You burn down the Yellow house but then burn down the run down pink house next door. Why?
Because you want to expand your backyard over there and enjoy their creek access.

The whole families in each house are killed but the driver, who moved to the grey house is still in the neighborhood.

Does this protect you? Are you safer in the neigborhood? Is it just? Do you believe in karma only theoretically?

Lois we turned a secular state into an Islamic state and one that has a legitimate axe to grind with US in the future. Even in your dog eat dog morality, are you safer, did we attack your enemies or somebody else?

A little respect and justice go a long way. I have plenty of enemy viewpoints here on Supertopo but I respect them and we can still communicate. If I started my own private war with them using violence and threats, things would get ugly for all of us, particularly me, in a big hurry.

Peace

karl
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Jul 8, 2006 - 01:14pm PT
"the real reason we went there"
Lois, Fatty and I, all agree on something!

However I suspect I'm the only one who objects to the implicit imperialism on those grounds.


If Canada and Mexico's oil was that accesible, would it be okay to march in and "make them a deal they can't refuse'?

I realize we already have the presence.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jul 8, 2006 - 01:15pm PT
Jody, back when you commented on this thread, we were talking about UN votes and how the US manages to vote against the entire world at times. That's not about playing nice with lunatics. Playing nice worked for Gandhi, Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela.

And it particularly works to keep the general populations from financing and supporting lunatic minorities.

In fact, there would have been no support by the general population here for stupid wars by the United States if we weren't responding to the 9-11 attacks. The principle works over there too.

Fatty wrote:

"You have the problem transposed. GWB and the neo-cons don't want to impose Christianity on the Muslims, it's Saudi Wahhabi clerics, Indonesian clerics, Osama/Taliban clerics, Somali clerics and Iranian clerics that want to impose their will over the western world. When they are ready to give up jihad, the world will have more peace. N. Korea is the last remaining non-muslim problem."

You're not getting it. Saddam had the radicals oppressed and all bottled up. We went over and set loose the genie. You are just trying to divide and conquer with your religious war talk. The Muslims aren't coming over and messing with our governments and politics, we're doing it over there. It's our hegemony that's spreading the resentment.

and I'm sure the neo-cons think Venezuela and Cuba are problems and if they don't think China is likely to be the biggest problem, they are blind

Peace

Karl
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