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James
climber
My twin brother's laundry room
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 26, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
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I wrote a bit about the latest Yosemite Bolt War on my blog. Check it out
Yosemite Bolt Wars
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hagerty
Social climber
A Sandy Area South of a Salty Lake
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Apr 26, 2013 - 03:16pm PT
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I think you were wrong to remove it.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Apr 26, 2013 - 03:20pm PT
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Seems like a historical landmark to me, one that means allot to all kinds of people from all over the world. Erasing it, Why? So you can write about it on your Blog?
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Apr 26, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
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Blow me...
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Apr 26, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
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Good riddance, who needs to be reminded of history?
This thing should be scratched out too:
And there's a bunch of petroglyphs at Donner Summit that need cleaning too.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Apr 26, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
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Heh...
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
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It's pretty funny for you to make the statement "does climbing need these trademarks?" after you have taken it upon yourself to be the judge and jury... maybe you should take a bit of ownership and say "I have decided for the world that we don't need these trademarks"
Who cares if people like taking a picture next to it? If Photogenic Euros annoy you don't boulder there, tie in and go get some exposure.
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Mr_T
Trad climber
Northern California
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
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Sounds like an old-dog who is over the hill, past his prime, still feels the need to pee on a fire hydrant.
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neversummer
climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
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fool...
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chill
climber
between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
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That memorial to Raffy Bedain really pisses me off. I'm going to pull it out.
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
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You have written better James. I'm fine with you scrubbing it off. How will people find it now? That is the question....
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
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Sounds like an old-dog who is over the hill, past his prime, still feels the need to pee on a fire hydrant.
But, he's not an old-dog. I remember when James showed up in the Valley, a talented noob, getting in over his head... just like the rest of us were bitd.
The Midnight Lighting chalk never bothered me. In fact, it releases a ton of memories. Mostly of failure and falling off the bolt hold, time and time again, ha ha. It's a piece of history, IMO.
James, if you really want to make a difference you should go on crusade of erasing all the big ass letters that universities, colleges and even high schools graffiti on the mountains and hillsides of every big town and city in the US.
Now THAT would be a proud and a worthy cause. Eye soars, IMO.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
East Coast US
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
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Booooo!
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Nkane
Trad climber
San Francisco, USA
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
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The magic left the bolt years ago.
The magic may have left your heart, but not mine.
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JBoydston
climber
Deep South
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:33pm PT
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Why did you need to remove it and spray about it on the internet?
After laying my eyes on El Cap and Half Dome for the first time, the next thing I wanted to see was Midnight Lightning (with the lightning bolt, of course).
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sharperblue
Mountain climber
San Francisco, California
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:34pm PT
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go send 'Massively Inflated Sense of Self Importance', V12, and impress us all. Christ, talk about first world problems. what the f*#k ever.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
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James, I never said the Euros did it! , I said "It was The French" that put the Bolt back, for photos. Anyway Bless your Heart, you mean well. DF
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Roots
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
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I hope I never meet you...I already don't like you.
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nutjob
Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:44pm PT
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Rising above the noise to catch Internet eyeballs must be getting harder and harder. Is bad attention really better than no attention?
I would personally have more respect for someone who spent the same amount of time going on a hike and picking up trash. Plus a lot more people would be supportive of that than tearing down a symbol to which a lot of people attach meaning. It obviously carries a lot of meaning for you too, or you wouldn't have focused your attention on removing it.
I had never spent the time to consider whether it was an eyesore or not, but common social graces would dictate that one considers group sentiment on a group resource before acting unilaterally. On the other hand, the same could be said that Bachar acted unilaterally to defile the rock without consulting the tribe. Who knows. Tempest in a tea pot. Better to just climb.
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Baggins
Boulder climber
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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
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james, I read your previous post about hueco and thought it was a wonderful narrative about the intractable access issues there. You really struck the right balance between hearing both sides of the argument.
In this case, I think you've misjudged the climbing communities' fondness for this bit of bachar's graffiti. Although it has proved an interesting experiment!
You say time has made it irrelevant. I disagree, time has done quite the opposite.
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