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Stoney007247
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Cordelia
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 23, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
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I was climbing at the Auburn Quarry on Saturday and Sunday this past weekend. I must say that place has a lot of potential as soon as the rock quality improves and the loose rock is cleared from the walls.
Saturday was a great day, but when I arrived Sunday a Subaru pulls right up to the Memorial rock and 7 people and their dog get out. I really didn’t care about the dog. If they are on a leash or VERY well mannered it’s not a big deal. Well, there were a lot of Canadian geese there and that is exactly where the dog went straight to. As the owner was climbing and not watching his dog it found the nest of the geese and proceeded to maul and kill 4 geese goslings in a nest and basically leave bird parts all over the place. I was so pissed at this jacka$$ I was seeing red. When I confronted him he just told me it was no big deal.
I really didn’t know what to do at the time. The guy refused to leave and just chained his dog up to a tree in the sun as he and his partner flailed on the multipitch in the back wall for like 3 hours for just 2 pitches. What would be the right thing to do at the time? Seeing this place is new and not fully set up yet I would hate to see a$$holes like this ruin it for the rest of us. Really, if you can’t watch or control your dog leave it at home!
Comments on what I should have done at the time would be nice. I did look for a ranger, but none were to be found the entire day.
Thanks,
Stoney
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Apr 23, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
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wow, total jackwagon dog owner move
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Apr 23, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
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It's a state park. Take down information and call ranger.
Park Office (530) 885-4527
or call 911
They are very responsive to this sort of thing.
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Apr 23, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
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"You can drive up to that crag?"
No you cannot. They were probably the volunteers from CRAGS.......
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Apr 23, 2013 - 03:58pm PT
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Unfortunately that kind of behavior can potentially affect everyone. In the minds of the park officials who may not be overjoyed at having climbers in the midst of their park where they are responsible for ensuring the resource is protevted and all people get along, this type of incident can lead to restrictions and closures.
Speak up - heck yes. I'd rather have one climber pissed at me than have one less crag to climb at.
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Stoney007247
Trad climber
Cordelia
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 23, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
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Thanks for the number, Labrat. I will have it for next time. All I could think of doing was cracking him in his jaw. But, that wouldn't have solved anything.
You're right Locker! Leave your dogs at home!
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Norwegian
Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
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me?
i would have (after moving my vehicle so's no
traceable record existed of my existence)
mauled the f*#king dog to death and then spread it's
limbs on and around the glossy pack of it's owner.
evolutionary privilege can be created, but not destroyed.
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
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Yep, I agree, turn them in . . .
My dog would be lucky to survive such an incident . . .
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
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The reason I know they respond quickly to this type of thing is below.
I walked with two dogs on the trail underneath the Foresthill bridge to Lake Clementine a week or so ago. The rangers were questioning me and my girlfriend if we had seen people with three pit bull type dogs that were threatening people.
Add killing wildlife and they will be all over it!
Erik
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
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Yes most likely a Crags volunteer since they were able to drive up. How LAME!
You should contact Crags and let them know what happened: http://norcalcrags.org/contact/
Hopefully they will revoke these folks volunteer status. If they were not volunteers Crags will want to know about someone else driving in anyway.
It's actually good you didn't find a ranger because this would have given all climbers (and responsible dog owners) a bad name. Better for Crags to settle this internally.
You don't just let your dog run unleashed.
You don't climb multi-pitch and leave your dog unattended.
EDIT TO ADD:
I wouldn't call the rangers unless the people were being threatening to me. As mentioned it will bring a bad light and access for all climbers could be threatened. Thanks idiots for letting your dog run wild.
A couple more points:
Canadian Geese are an invasive species. They push out native species and overpopulate. As a matter of fact I wish my dog would chase the damn things away from my pond so we'd get more ducks, egrets, herons, etc. They sh#t everywhere and honk and fight for territory. Maybe I should invite that dog to my house. Canadian Geese caused the Miracle on the Hudson plane crash and many others.
It's the owners fault, not the dogs. The dog was doing what he thinks he is supposed to. Hunt to feed the pack. It's the owner who should keep his dog under control. All you'd have to do is break a few of the owners fingers and then he couldn't climb, problem solved.
As far as what to do, talk to the owner first like you did. Then talk to any women in his group if possible. They'll talk some sense into him later. Not to much you can do and it's not worth fighting over. You could also eat lunch below them and talk loudly about what an idiot he is and how karma will probably cause him to fall and get hurt.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:15pm PT
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jebus!
who's baby?
dismembered?
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Norwegian
Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
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ahh.
got it.
i completely understand dislodge-ic.
sometimes i get lost, though.
while seeking it's incestuous uncle,
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Floorabove
climber
The Gunks y\'all
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
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Feed the dog ex lax rolled in sliced ham. Will make for a sporty drive home in the Subaru.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
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^^ Fantastic!!
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
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Please, just leave your dog at home.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:44pm PT
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Dogs are fine at crags, please leave the people at home.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Apr 23, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
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And it's Canada geese.
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Stoney007247
Trad climber
Cordelia
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 23, 2013 - 04:46pm PT
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Ah ha, and the politically correct answer of the day goes to, the fet. Thanks for the link! And that explains the hammer drill that they broke out later and decided to drill a few new holes on memorial rock.
I will shoot them some spray later on today.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Apr 23, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
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Blame Canada.
Those stupid Canada Geese. They're jealous the Loon is on their money. Leaving their igloos and coming down here, being overly nice, eating maple syrup, saying: "I"m aboot to make this rock my hoose, eh."
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Norwegian
Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
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Apr 23, 2013 - 05:06pm PT
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every morning my wife gets
up at 4:30 and she disappears
into the cave-like closet
that i built her.
she lays down on her retired yoga mat,
and does 100 situps.
she uses this purple machine that
has been my nemisis ever since i smoked berry pudding.
i love it.
she's ambitious and sexy.
though this creaky machine sounds
just like a flock of canadian geese
flyin over's.
so i sometimes inquire,
"did the geese fly over this morning?"
i always get an extra-special kiss on those.
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