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Matt's
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 11, 2012 - 10:54pm PT
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Hello,
I was hoping to get my hands on a pair of relatively unused yellow Jumars-- as seen in the picture here:
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/107825721
anyone got a pair they want to sell?
thanks in advance
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JMC
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the land of milk and honey
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Nov 11, 2012 - 11:07pm PT
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I have a brand new pair of yellow jumars (might even still be in the bag), will sell either them, or a pair of used cmi expedition ascenders for $80 shipping included. Pm if you want them.
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Matt's
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2012 - 11:07pm PT
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i've used the petzl ones, the bd ones, and the yellow jumars, and I like the yellow jumars the best-- they are very smooth, though a bit less ergonomic
not everything gets better over time...
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Matt's
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2012 - 11:09pm PT
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JMC-- thanks for the quick reply. I sent you a PM.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Nov 11, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
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I got a pair. Never been used.
No bag for 60 bucks.
Jus Sell'in
BB
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 11, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
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sold my pair to Jeff Batten (aka Juan de Fuca, among many others) in October of 2009
bought in 1971 or 1972... and not used much at all...
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harryhotdog
Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 11, 2012 - 11:24pm PT
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I loved mine, but alas they melted in a forest fire even though I had them stashed under a rock.
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Matt's
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2012 - 11:29pm PT
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blueblockr-- sent you a pm.
love supertopo, everything has old crap they want to unload!
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Nov 12, 2012 - 07:08am PT
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These aren't crap though, I like them better than the petzl's too. Normally you want everything to be light weight, but I like the weight of real jumars. (mine aren't for sale)
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 12, 2012 - 08:33am PT
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Perhaps you are unaware of the problems of breaking that plagued Jumars.
Those of us who spent day after day hanging out on Jumars high on the big stone were afraid of Jumars, and had them rigged such that we wouldn't die it the bottom half broke off at an un-opportune moment....
I'll take Petzel ascenders over Jumars any day.
A dangerous way to rig a Jumar - if the bottom half breaks off, you're toast. I wasn't putting full body weight on my jugs, so in this case I didn't care.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Nov 12, 2012 - 09:54am PT
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Really? I never heard of jumars breaking, although I dont doubt what you say. Did it happen more than one time? Did the jumar break under body weight? They are so heavy and solid looking. I did a google search and there's not much about this. Here's a consumer reports type analysis of different kinds of ascenders, doesn't mention any problems with the jumar brand: http://www.cavediggers.com/vertical/7ASCENT.pdf
Here's an old taco thread about this:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=824216
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Nov 12, 2012 - 09:59am PT
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I have gray ones but could spay paint them yellow for a nominal fee
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 12, 2012 - 10:21am PT
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From the above Taco thread:
Back in the day, we'd sling them through the upper eye, and coach-tape the webbing all the way down the handle to provide a second clip-in point down low. And we'd use a short sling through that odd, vertical lower eye, wrapped around both sides of the frame. We'd use cotton coach's tape, not duct tape, because it provided a better hand grip.
My recollection is that the very earliest Jumars had a small number of failures with the aluminum body breaking under high loading, like falling on them. I don't remember if the lower frame broke on one side, or what. But, the double-slinging technique was pretty common back then, and I learned it from somebody in Camp 4.
We always double-slinged them for fear of breaking.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Nov 12, 2012 - 10:42am PT
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Now you have twoo pairs!!!!
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 12, 2012 - 10:49am PT
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The Gray jumars were the best.
The gray jumars were the most efficient and ergonomic.
The gray jumars were the weakest.
All the new sh!t today can't match the gray jumars for speed, efficiency and ergonomics.
The yellow jumars suck big donkey sh!t.
They're hard to get on and off the rope compared to the gray ones.
A good engineer could design a new jumar that's strong with, speed, efficiency and good ergonomics.
Most new jumars today leave out the speed in getting them on and off the rope.
All the new sh!t today is designed for people afraid to die.
Of course most all of us do not want to die using jumars .........:-)
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Nov 12, 2012 - 11:27am PT
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All the new sh!t today is designed for people afraid to die.
Of course most all of us do not want to die using jumars .........:-)
Roger that!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 12, 2012 - 11:27am PT
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most?!
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Nov 12, 2012 - 11:28am PT
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Plate versus cast. Many folks consider plate ascenders less likely to crack. I know a caver that had a gray jumar break on the rope side spline.
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ddriver
Trad climber
SLC, UT
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Nov 12, 2012 - 11:30am PT
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Nov 12, 2012 - 11:43am PT
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Werner, I actually like it that they're hard to get on and off the rope. That's my main fear with an ascender, that it will come off the rope, particularly if they get side-loaded. I have a pair of petzl's too and this is what bothers me about them.
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