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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 27, 2012 - 01:58pm PT
Up in Woodland is the superb Fred Heidrick Antique Tractor and Ag Collection, the Hays Antique Truck Collection see at http://www.aghistory.org/

I've been in there a few times over the years and anyone interested in old trucks or tractors driving up i-5 out of Sacramento through the town of Woodland, you can't miss it, on the right as you come into Woodland out past the Sacramento airport, just past the Walgreens warehouse. Its backed right up to the freeway, take the first woodland exit, right at the stop sign, left at the light, left into the museum parking lot.

So the reason I even bother to mention it....

I was in Ft Lee VA this week on business. As me and my colleagues drove to our destination I glanced out the window and saw the Keystone Tractor Works museum.

I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO VISIT!!!1111111
http://www.keystonetractorworks.com/virginia-museum/

I shoulda MADE time. Sometimes I hit on all cylinders when traveling, and get to see some unusual things. More often its like this... ah but if I had the time, the stories I could tell!

DMT
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jul 27, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
My grandfather had one of these. A fabulous workinghorse. He still had it in the eighties. We worked very well together.

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One of today's monsters

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Jstan

A great picture. Is that you on the tractor? I know the feeling. The Ferguson was one of my friends.
jstan

climber
Jul 27, 2012 - 02:13pm PT
We never should have sold that 30's Farmall A. It was my best friend.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jul 27, 2012 - 05:06pm PT
Boy, who built that lean to, Stevie Wonder?
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jul 27, 2012 - 05:23pm PT
This was our 1st tractor on the farm. photo taken 1965 by my aunt. we eventually upgraded to a Ford 800 or 850?
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 27, 2012 - 05:24pm PT
I hope this thread has traction.

The Western Development Museum in Saskatoon has lots of plows and tractors and such, going back more than a century. Well worth a visit. http://www.wdm.ca/stoon.html

Standard Friday night date in farm country: Allis Chalmers and John Deere.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jul 27, 2012 - 06:01pm PT
Growing up in the rural south, I think we all got to drive a tractor at an early age as one of our first driving experiences.

Mine was on one of these (think I'd driven the neighbor's 68 Chevy pickup on the deer lease when he had to open the gate or something once before getting on one of these): 40's era Ford

Gary

climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
Jul 27, 2012 - 06:11pm PT
My first driving experience was on a McCormick Farmall. I've loved torque ever since.

That's a nice rebuild, Dingus. What the hell is it?
klk

Trad climber
cali
Jul 27, 2012 - 06:14pm PT
elcap-- i learned on a forties ford.

also got to watch my grampa roll and light cigs with one hand.

i'd love to have enough ground to justify owning one. at the moment, i only get to buy tractor porn calendars.

http://classictractors.com/calendar.html

Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Jul 27, 2012 - 08:13pm PT
First driving experience above the lawn mower was the late 40's John Deer A. I was amazed that it was still running, the thing was tough, and as my young mind did the math I realized the JD and my dad were about the same age.

Neighbor had an old international and before we could play we had the farm work to complete. Rarely drove that one but caught a gazillion bail of hay off the backside.

Hey it's the weekend, let's get out there and enjoy.

Aloha,
Will
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jul 28, 2012 - 11:19am PT
Dingus, we had a bridge that looked almost exactly like that..through truss, wooden deck, about 100' span, 12' wide, 18' up to the top of the tress, 'cept the railing was 2" angle iron or similar, instead of round stock. On Conley Ditch road, over Jackson Lake, built in 1909, and my @#$%^&* schoolbus used to cross the thing! Sketchy. They finally replaced it in 2000 with a new concrete monstrosity.

It was about a mile and half from my folk's house where I grew up. Dirt road lead to it, where my bro taught me how to drive a stick (paved that when they replaced the bridge) , decent bluegill and crappie fishing under the bridge. Every now and then some drunk redneck would jump off the top and about break their legs since it was only about 6' deep in late summer.

Old saying is true, you really can't ever go home again...it's all gone...the people, the places, all the unique things.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jul 28, 2012 - 11:43am PT
They were burly for sure. My neighbor got that one sunk into a bog trying to cross the little creek in the woods below his corn field where he'd cleared a little patch for some melons. Luckily my stepdad had a friend's front end loader, like a much smaller version of a D-9, sitting in our yard at the time (something about hiding it from the repo man!). We loved having it around, used it to skid out a ton of red and white oak from the woods behind the house to cut up at our leisure. So pops fired up the loader and went down there to pull him out. Big spectacle for us, way better than watching another block of Bill Dance and Orlando Wilson. I think payback was a loan of his bass boat for a weekend (both were church-going men, never seen either of them take a drink).

I don't miss much about the south, but there are definitely things we got out there that you'd never get growing up in the 'burbs.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Jul 28, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
it's all gone...the people, the places, all the unique things.

the banks have taken everything but the crank
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jul 28, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
tractors were a family business for us--oliver tractors, formerly hart-parr of charles city, iowa.

my great uncle george managed the factory there for a long time. when he retired, they gave him a plaque that said, "you made tractors, george, the best in the land", and they were right. john culbertson, one of his assistants, has published a couple books on the good old days there, when everybody seemed to be on the same side and pulled together. these people knew how to have fun and work at the same time, a long forgotten pairing in most of america. the downside was that, due to the engine foundry, the factory eventually became a superfund site.


my dad got a job through his uncle and stayed until oliver got bought by white motor corporation and merged with minnie-mo, cockshutt and other inky-dinkies, all of which died their corporate deaths in the 1970s. there are basically three companies left in this field, john deere, ford, and caterpillar. if you think teddy roosevelt's trust busting and subsequent antitrust legislation means a damn thing in the united states of america, i hope they have a job for you in china.

you'll still see olivers once in awhile. i see them in the fields around oxnard, ancient, but still running like tops. the philosophy was that farmers don't like to buy cheap equipment, they want things that'll last. the first time i heard the term "planned obsolescence" was while visiting my dad at corporate headquarters in downtown chicago shortly after they were acquired by white.

dad was a lawyer for the company, but he was a ham actor at heart, and he once did a great job of playing drunk at a business meeting with uncle george, one of the anecdotes in the book, which became legendary. he also liked to address farmers with the opening line, "we stand behind all our products ... except the manure spreaders."

Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jul 28, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
One Saturday afternoon, before our monthly management club meeting at the armory, George had a pre-meeting cocktail party in his basement. His nephew, Bob Bird, from the Chicago office, was the evening's program speaker. When I arrived, the party was just getting underway, and I chatted with Bob. He was immaculately dressed, smiling, and in great shape for his presentation. But as the cocktail hour went on, Bob looked and acted as though he had spent too much time at the bar bending his elbow. By the time we left for dinner at the armory, Bob's tie was loose at the collar, his shirt was partially unbuttoned and hanging out at the belt. In fact, he looked a mess; his speech was slurred and his walk was unsteady.

George was beside himself, and for once, he didn't know what to do. At the head table at the armory, Bob was boisterous, dropped his silverware, and created quite a disturbance. All eyes in the room were on Bob, as he proceeded to make an absolute ass of himself. George was embarrassed beyond words and tugged at Bob's sleeve to calm him down. George leaned over and urged him to give up trying to make a speech. This riled Bob all the more and set him off on a loud tirade against George.

Those of us who were seated close to George were mortified, but there was nothing we could do about it. Anything George said was brushed off and to no avail. After dinner the president of the club warily approached the podium, opened the meeting, and quickly conducted the business. With a furtive glance at George, as if to ask, "Do I close the meeting now or introduce Bob?", the president realized it was up to him to decide. Without dwelling on Bob's impressive background and wanting to get this bad scene over as quickly as possible, he simply said, "It is my pleasure to introduce Bob Bird from our Chicago office," and quickly returned to his seat.

As the crowd of more than 200 men and women politely clapped, Bob lurched to his feet, knocked over his chair and kicked it out of the way. His hair was disheveled, his shirt was hanging out of his pants, and he was more out of than in his suitcoat. Everyone gasped, and you could hear some whisper, "He's drunk." One even murmured, "My God, he really is stoned!"

Bob fell twice as he ascended the stairs to the podium. On the podium, he tried to grab the microphone, but in his apparent tipsy condition it took him three attempts before he conquered it with both hands. He wiped his nose with a sweep of his coat sleeve, rolled his eyes, opened his mouth, and struggled to stay on his feet. The room was hushed, and everyone including George was appalled at what they were witnessing. Bob closed his mouth, opened it again, then shouted, "INTERCOURSE!" The men blinked, looked at each other, and thought in disbelief, "What did he say?" The women bowed their heads, closed their eyes, and tried to hide their embarrassment.

While reactions swirled around the audience, Bob turned his back on everyone and disappeared behind the podium curtain. We all sat there stunned and looked at George to see what he was going to do. He just sat there as if someone had shot him. But momentarily Bob emerged from behind the curtain, and the audience had reason to gasp again in disbelief. It was a miraculous transformation. Bob was smiling; his hair was neatly combed; his shirt was buttoned and properly tucked in, and his tie no longer loosened. To my astonishment, he was as immaculately groomed and dressed as when I greeted him a few hours earlier. What's more, he was steady on his feet. He stepped confidently to the microphone, deftly positioned it, and in a clear, crisp voice and with a broad smile said, "Things aren't always what they seem." George looked as if he were a balloon that had just been popped with a pin. He, along with everyone else, had been taken in bigtime with Bob's carefully contrived charade.

The theme of Bob's speech was about relationships--social and business intercourse--rather than sexual intercourse. He talked about the art of communicating with each other and how important it is to convey correctly the meaning that is intended. He made the point that when he shouted "intercourse" we assumed he meant sexual intercourse, which wasn't the case at all since the word intercourse has many meanings depending on the full context in which it is used.

It was a superb speech. It was provocative--one that was long remembered and talked about for many years. When Bob concluded his speech, he was given a standing ovation, and the club president adjourned the meeting on a happy note. George hastily called a post-meeting party in his basement, and for the rest of the evening he was subdued and not his old self. But he did manage to tell Bob, "You sure fooled me. It was a hell of an act, but God dammit, don't ever do that to me again!"

from The Tractor Builders by john d. culbertson



i drove one of these during a summer job with the company in the 1960s. learned to plow--fun!

but dingus, really, on topic?
Gary

climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
Jul 28, 2012 - 01:15pm PT
Old saying is true, you really can't ever go home again...it's all gone...the people, the places, all the unique things.

Yep. We had one of those bridges, too. Built in 1890 it crossed Bluegrass Creek on Heckel Road. The bridge is gone, as well as most of the cool places it led to, replaced by I-164.

Me and the dogs had a lot of fun on Bluegrass Creek, BITD.

One old guy on our school bus route didn't believe in tractors. Mid-'60s and he still had a pair of massive draft horses. He did farm a small parcel, but it was really quite a sight.

I was visiting back home in the '80s around the time of the farm crisis and farm-Aid and all that. I asked my Dad about all that, thinking he'd be sympathetic to the farmers, seeing how "farm hand" was listed as occupation on his army records.

Wrong! He thought it was all their fault, buying those fancy tractors with air-conditioning and tape players!

Tony, I've seen an Oliver before. Nice story.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jul 28, 2012 - 08:56pm PT
Pa spreading sh#t with our Farmall.Me working firewood about 78? with the Ford 800 or 850?That's our sugar shack by the horseOur neighbor George walker with his Farmall H 1965some of our critters, about 1968
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Jul 28, 2012 - 09:57pm PT
I make a living supplying parts for all these tractor... Those old ones and the new ones.
Nice to see these machines getting some attention.
The Ford N series changed the fabric of this nation.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jul 28, 2012 - 10:08pm PT
Can you tell what model my Ford was? Obviously it had a fancy new seat on it but it was pretty old 35 years ago.
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Jul 28, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
Looks like a 601 Workmaster
If U get me the serial number (By the starter), I can tell you all about it.
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