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Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 7, 2012 - 12:52am PT
Cool event coming to my School at the University of Colorado Denver by our very own Chiloe! All who are interested are invited.

Title: Do you believe the climate is changing? Beliefs and knowledge in new survey research

Featuring: Dr. Larry Hamilton, University of New Hampshire

Topic: Anthropogenic climate change has become a major new wedge issue, dividing people along party lines more efficiently than the hot social issues. Surveys find that college-educated or better-informed respondents are particularly prone to party-line polarization, because they more actively acquire new facts to support their old beliefs. This implies that certain climate facts behave as dependent variables, accepted to support beliefs rather than shaping those beliefs in the first place -- contrary to the "science literacy" hypothesis. Analysis of two recent national surveys documents the depth of polarization among information elites, and explores the complex relationships between information, partisanship and beliefs that underlie this polarization.

Please join the School of Public Affairs in welcoming Dr. Larry Hamilton as he presents his new research on this topic. Dr. Hamilton is a professor of sociology at the University of New Hampshire. His research focuses on the Arctic, human-environment interactions, and statistics and data analysis.

When: Monday, March 5, 4:00 p.m.

Where: Lawrence Street Center,5th floor, Classroom 500, Denver CO 80204

Please RSVP to spa@ucdenver.edu
Dingus McGee

Social climber
Laramie
Feb 7, 2012 - 08:18am PT
Yes, it seems for the most part the dissenters quote older studies that have been refuted with new research and studies most of the time in their attempt at refutation.

Another behavior of the dissenters is cite to daily cold weather as evidence of climate change opposite to warming.

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/disinformation_about_global_warming/

I have found this free book download to be a good history of global warming studies.

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.htm
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2012 - 09:46am PT
Hope some of the tacos get a chance to come on out to hear this. Perhaps I should add that in general, there are snacks and refreshments at these events. :)
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Feb 7, 2012 - 10:52am PT
I wish I could be there.
It sounds really interesting
brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
Feb 7, 2012 - 12:12pm PT
Is this going to be recorded or perhaps pod-casted?
klk

Trad climber
cali
Feb 7, 2012 - 12:23pm PT
Surveys find that college-educated or better-informed respondents are particularly prone to party-line polarization, because they more actively acquire new facts to support their old beliefs. This implies that certain climate facts behave as dependent variables, accepted to support beliefs rather than shaping those beliefs in the first place -- contrary to the "science literacy" hypothesis.

i look forward to reading the study, but i can certainly offer a quick judgment on the abstract:

"college education" is no longer a useful measure of "science literacy." lab sciences have been gutted in hs and now in universities. anecdotal evidence on my own campus suggests that an overwhelming majority of college grads have never done a single course in college-level lab science, and lab science in k-12 has been radically cut back.

memorizing a bunch of random trivia for a multiple choice exam isn't much of a means of improving science literacy.

chiloe, do you have a breakdown by major? i.e., a survey category for folks who completed an undergraduate major that involved significant lab time? i.e., some sort of training that actually exposed students to the practice of science? that would be interesting.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 7, 2012 - 01:08pm PT

Mebbe if we can get a happy hour goin' after the presentation. . .

:-)
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Feb 7, 2012 - 03:02pm PT
Dingus McGee:
I have found this free book download to be a good history of global warming studies.

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.htm


Dingus is right, that's Spencer Weart's "The Discovery of Global Warming," which is classic and very well researched. His online version links to many of the key studies in the field.


brotherbbock:
Is this going to be recorded or perhaps pod-casted?

Prolly not, but did you check that 5-minute video I posted a while back on FB? One of the other participants, atmospheric scientist Kerry Emanuel from MIT, ended up getting death threats as a result of that video.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Feb 7, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
klk, Dr. F -- regarding education, scientific literacy etc., we've looked at a number of different indicators:
 highest degree?
 college major in science?
 high school courses in science?
 do you feel that you're well informed?
 score on an 11-question science literacy quiz
 score on a 5-question polar knowledge quiz
 responses to 3 climate knowledge questions

The basic findings outlined in the abstract Callie posted above appear to be pretty robust.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Feb 7, 2012 - 03:07pm PT
SteveW:
Mebbe if we can get a happy hour goin' after the presentation. . .

It's always a good time for a happy hour.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 7, 2012 - 03:24pm PT
If I'm not grossly mistaken isn't it true that a large majority of people
wind up with the relatively same political views as their parents?

It would be illustrative if you could sample for the ability to think critically.



Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2012 - 03:47pm PT
Actually, we are setting up a podcast! Thanks for asking. I wil post the podcast info when I get it. Looks like some NCAR folks wil come too. Plus some who admire Larry for his climbing. :)

I hope you all come and you can do a HH afterward. i have to teach at 6:30 so I cannot stay long. Very nice places nearby to HH.

Larry: some are asking if you will bring some stata books to sell. Will you?
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Feb 7, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
Bringing books to sell sounds too tacky, I'll just bring sheer charisma. How large is this room?
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Feb 7, 2012 - 04:01pm PT
Another behavior of the dissenters is cite to daily cold weather as evidence of climate change opposite to warming.

Sure, only the "dissenters" (sort of an oddly pejorative term) do that.
We'd never have a situation where, for example, our nation's fearless leader would cite examples of unusual weather as evidence for so-called "climate change" (and, as an implied warning for what we'll be faced with if you don't vote the "right" way).
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Feb 7, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
It would be great to get this at Cal-Tech sometime in the future.

Looking forward to the web version.


brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
Feb 7, 2012 - 04:12pm PT
Yeah I did see that video.

Death threats??? That is ridiculous.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Feb 7, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
Darn, Crimpie, I thought with that title that Chiloe would be speaking at my daughters' alma mater, U. C. Davis. I have that commute down pat after the seven years (between them) they attended there. Denver is, sad to say, too difficult for me to travel in my current, disabled, condition, but I look forward to hearing how it went.

When I had some issues with Chiloe's take on the subject, he did a most unusual thing on this forum. Rather than engage in an insult fest, he referred me to data and sources that addressed my concerns. Ever since, I've always appreciated reading what he writes or hearing what he says.

John
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Feb 7, 2012 - 04:41pm PT
If I'm not grossly mistaken isn't it true that a large majority of people
wind up with the relatively same political views as their parents?

It would be illustrative if you could sample for the ability to think critically.



My mother is, essentially, a Communist. My father was a Hiram Johnson Republican. What views could I have that were totally indepedent of them?

John
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Feb 7, 2012 - 04:48pm PT
Spider, I get out near Cal Tech now and then. Want me to send you a note next time?
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 7, 2012 - 04:52pm PT

I just RSVP'd!

See you then, Chiloe!!!
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