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Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 1, 2012 - 01:05am PT
Chessler, are you serious?


http://www.chesslerbooks.com/item/12281-vintage-manila-climbing-rope.asp
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jan 1, 2012 - 01:07am PT

What did W.C. Fields say?????
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Jan 1, 2012 - 01:07am PT
Are you saying the price is to low?
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Jan 1, 2012 - 01:35am PT
I wouldn't mind having an ice axe like that again.
mwatsonphoto

Trad climber
los angeles, ca
Jan 1, 2012 - 01:53am PT
Gotta pay those xmas bills I guess...
H

Mountain climber
there and back again
Jan 1, 2012 - 02:32am PT
Not worth it even if you throw in the ice axe!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 1, 2012 - 09:42am PT
Steve,
are you thinking of P. T. Barnum?
W. C. Fields said that he doesn't drink water because phish phuck in it.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jan 1, 2012 - 10:16am PT
Actually the price is good.

It's a wall-hanger. Compare to the price of a painting or wall art (check your local Pier-One or Target store) then throw in that it is antique rope. You can't just go down to Home Depot and pick up some.


Obviously those posting above do not have a budget of $250 to decorate a blank section of their wall. However, those of us in the 1% wanna-be circles consider it pocket change.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jan 1, 2012 - 11:58am PT
Dang, my buddy gave me a stretch of goldline that he scored off of Higher Cat Spire, most likely used as an anchor by Royal Robbins during an obscure early 60's ascent.


I wonder what that sucker is worth...
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 1, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
I'd want to know a helluva lot more about the provenance of those ropes before I peeled $250.00 outta my craggin gas money budget.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 1, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
For a little bit more he can get you one signed by Ghastly Rabbitfat.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jan 1, 2012 - 01:15pm PT

Ron. . .

My bad. . . P.T. Barnum is who I meant!
Bldrjac

Ice climber
Boulder
Jan 1, 2012 - 01:21pm PT
Ron,

common man. The name is Ghastly Rubberfat!!.................

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jan 1, 2012 - 01:26pm PT
Ghastly Rubberface. Saw him speak, once. Very suave and debonair.
bookie

climber
Jan 1, 2012 - 09:39pm PT
Chessler here,

I find it amusing that when my name apppears on this list it's usually because somebody who is not a collector thinks my price on something is too high. Especially on something that nobody else in the world has for sale! So how does he know the price is too high?

Go into a shopping mall (do they still exist?) and look at prices on better men's or women's clothes. Jewelry. Art. Shoes for God's sake.
Not everybody who climbs or had the good fortune to be able to do first ascents or big walls in the Valley. Thousands of people appreciate climbing in different ways, usually by reading about it. And not by criticizing how others appreciate it.

I liked climbing before I even started climbing in 1962, by reading books. And I always liked old things. My father had an old fashioned drugstore in Brooklyn and I loved the old ornate wooden shelves, the rolling ladder, the old wood phone booths with folding doors. So now I can sell that old stuff for a living. I feel so lucky to be doing this!

If I told you how many antique nailed climbing boots I sold you would be amazed; how many wood handled ice axes, you would think I was lying; how many Chouinard Pitons that are signed by Kor, RR, Beckey etc you would think I was hallucinating. (In the last two years I have given Kor over $5000 for signing stuff, for those who are concerned that I am exploiting him. Ask RR what I do for him, etc.)

In fact, after I opened the box with these manila ropes yesterday, the first thing I did was send an e-mail to my European supplier and tell him to find me more of them!

It's called nostalgia. It's a reaction to ipads and ipods and twitter and super fast editing of films and commercials. It's called real verus phony.

Michael Chessler
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2012 - 09:52pm PT
Micahel...

I find it amusing that when my name apppears on this list it's usually because somebody who is not a collector thinks my price on something is too high. E

careful lad... You have not been in my library, You have not seen inside the countless boxes stored under beds. You do not know if I am a collector or not.

I fully understand your pricing on pins, books, ice axes, etc. as these items will be here 150-200 years from now. But that piece of cord?... come on now!

I have an idea, tell us what your cost was and let the market decide if $250 is a fair collector's markup! Come on, show us the invoice!!!

I know this won't happen...
cintune

climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
Jan 1, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
It was not brought, and should not have been employed, for the purpose for which it was used. It was old rope, and, compared with the others, was feeble. It was intended as a reserve, in case we had to leave much rope behind, attached to rocks.

But then pecuniary interest asserted itself, and I beckoned to old Peter: "Come, let us take this remnant and see if we can sell it, as a piquant wall ornament!"

He turned with an ashy face and faltering limbs, and said, with terrible emphasis, "I cannot!"
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 1, 2012 - 10:16pm PT
Again, the quesion revolves around provenance. If these ropes were truely and uniquely manufactured for climbing, $250.00 is a screaming deal, IMHO. I've spent way more on that for specific books I wanted and works of art I coveted. (I paid $3500 for a painting that a very minor artist created. I just wanted that painting, and was willing to pay for it.)

However, if they are merely old strands of period manila cord that were mass-manufactured merely to be strong, were commenly available at the time of manufacture, and were intended for applications in, say, industry, construction, sailing, pulling stumps, or hoisting stuff around in warehouses, well they would be of little interest to me.

Were specialized, application-specific "Cllimbing Ropes" being manufactured in the 40's?
jogill

climber
Colorado
Jan 1, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
Careful, don't denigrate my first climbing rope, 1953! Still have tiny scars where the fibers got under the skin while rappeling.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jan 1, 2012 - 10:35pm PT

How much do you want to sell it for, Jogill????


hee hee hee. . .
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