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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 10, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
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I shot a breast cancer benefit horse ride today with about 150 riders in it. About 50% of the participants were obese.. Seems like they should have had an obesity awareness ride as well as a breast cancer ride. INMOP many more of those riders will die from obesity related ailments than anything else. Pretty sad.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 10, 2011 - 09:44pm PT
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are they holding a rally at fattrads house?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 10, 2011 - 10:12pm PT
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Calories in calories out, easier for some , harder for others. When it comes to obesity I have no sympathy.
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strangeday
Trad climber
Brea ca.
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Oct 10, 2011 - 11:12pm PT
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I could have gone my entire life without seeing that pic....
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 10, 2011 - 11:19pm PT
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hey there say, tradmanclimbs....
say, i think i mentioned this before:
i saw a few documentaries, a ways back, when babysittting, on the depression times, and LOTS of film clips... it was rare, if ever, that you saw anyone that was 'heavy' as to being over weight...
on the averages, most folks were fairly uniform, by any heights, short or tall, etc...
it seemed to normal really, kind of like how the human body would naturaly shape out to being....
when seeing other shows, while babysitting (travel shows, or whatever, you did not see this at all... more folks were over-weight, as to those that weren't... surely that means something is wrong)....
*note: that does not mean that i want folks to be down and out, and hungry, :O (said nicely, dear folks)...
but you get my drift...
lack of self control, and too much on-hand and lower standards, as to self-care.... is very common now...
thanks for the reminder.. is good for us, if we have kids or grandkids...
they will only learn, if we teach them...
:)
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Oct 10, 2011 - 11:21pm PT
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Dean-
That picture is pretty...Gross!
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 10, 2011 - 11:23pm PT
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What's gross about it?
Looks normal to me.
It's got all the body parts you have too ....
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Oct 11, 2011 - 12:59am PT
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Obesity is 'bigger cause of breast cancer than smoking or drinking'
By SOPHIE BORLAND
Last updated at 9:52 AM on 20th July 2011
Obesity is the biggest avoidable cause of breast cancer, a study claims.
Women who are dangerously overweight are at a far higher risk even than those who drink heavily or smoke.
Experts have long known that the excesses of a modern, unhealthy lifestyle can dramatically increase the likelihood of breast cancer.
But now scientists have shown that obese women have far higher levels of cancer-triggering hormones than those who smoke or drink to excess.
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Oct 11, 2011 - 09:59am PT
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It's not that simple. I guess all those 5th and 6th grade kids who are fed crap in school should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps huh? My job, as a chronic disease epidemiologist who works on obesity has led me to understand that there is a lot going on in addition to individual choices. There are factors that help us to make better individual choices. And there is virtually no money available for obesity prevention.
Obesity is a risk factor for breast cancer, too.
My advise is to try and find a little sympathy.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Row, Calif.
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Oct 11, 2011 - 10:15am PT
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Obesity, that's why god invented slab climbing.
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Archie Richardson
Trad climber
Grand Junction, CO
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Oct 11, 2011 - 05:56pm PT
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Obesity is terminal to climbing. So climbers have all figured out a solution, or they have to quit climbing. It is (of course) mostly diet and exercise. There are several dietary pathways, the challenge is to find the best one that works for you. Some people cannot exercise and are stuck on bad diets (or medications) that cause obesity. This is very sad.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2011 - 06:13pm PT
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Mike. i see what goes in their shopping carts and in their pie holes. every day is new day and a chance to start over. Not much sympathy here. Heck i quit booze. that certainly was not easy. fixed my own weight issues. It can be done.
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Nohea
Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
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Oct 11, 2011 - 06:18pm PT
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and OUR Great Benefactor has the gall to sell a lie such that they have blessed us with their federal direction on dining...So what else do you so? Take more taxpayers $$ and have an exhibition.
http://www.archives.gov/press/press-kits/whats-cooking/
get that? They take our $$$ and make unhealthy diet recommendations, we get fatter, then they take more $$ to tell how great they have helped us out.
The State...what a joke!
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Gal
Trad climber
a semi lucid consciousness
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Oct 11, 2011 - 06:57pm PT
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I agree with Mike-there is a complex picture. When I watched "super-size me", the most disturbing part is about kids school lunches, soda in schools, etc. We begin being indoctrinated by crappy food at a very young age. Then with the fact that it is cheaper and super convenient to eat like crap verses home cooked healthy organic free range type. meals, that's another issue.
I feel sympathy in that I know nobody who gains weight or is obese feels good about it emotionally. Nobody is happy about that, so I feel for people in that sense.
As an adult, I really don't feel sympathy for myself if I gain a little, I do know it's my own fault. But there is a lot for people to overcome by what they are surrounded by and I mostly feel for the youngsters, how can they have a chance with the brainwashing marketing they are subjected to? These companies spend huge amounts of money targeting kids/teens because it WORKS. It has far reaching effects that follow someone through the rest of their life. It's unethical, IMO, to market to young with unhealthy food. Really, we all were subjected (for the most part) to this marketing when we were young. Some of us can overcome it, but the statistics show that most of us can't (referring to the general popultion) even if we know what is healthy once we are adults able to make our own choices.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 11, 2011 - 07:06pm PT
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Gal
Trad climber
a semi lucid consciousness
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Oct 11, 2011 - 07:14pm PT
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Well Ghost unfortunately the pic on the left will be catching up to the right as McDonalds invades the world... Europe is not immune...
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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Oct 11, 2011 - 07:15pm PT
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I feel compassion for obese kids because they learn the habits from their parents, from school food, from TV commercials, etc. They have not had time to build up their defenses against the mountain of distorted messages that obscure the basic nature of healthy eating and physical activity.
We've had a war on drugs... where's the war on TV? Surely the inactivity engendered by TV (and the high volume brainwashing with unhealthy food choices) will eventually kill more people in the US than all alcohol and cigarette and illegal drug deaths combined?
But then again, we'd have to take away TV and Internet these days. And I'm not ready to give up my supertaco.
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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Oct 11, 2011 - 08:32pm PT
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One of the things that is surprising to me is how the perception of what equals overweight has really shifted. I know so many people who think that lean people are unhealthy and that one is only overweight when they need to buy their clothes in the plus sized section...and even then if you're tall there might be some equivocation.
Every year my pants get another size smaller, but I just stay the same weight. (Who's got the reference?)
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Nohea
Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
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Oct 11, 2011 - 09:16pm PT
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Hey Sean, welcome to the tacostand!
Wow nice one... lets do a quick fact check.
You leech off the taxpayers in your STATE job...Did you forget who puts food on your table, MR. STATE EMPLOYEE?
Did you neglect to notice that the taxpayers bought the chair you plop your ample ass into every morning?
I am just trying to get a fraction of my $$ back. Our finances are none of your biz but it certainly in knott the $$ from this job that puts food on the table.
No taxpayer paid a cent for the chair or desk I have. First thing I did was had the desk and pathetic chair removed from the room and then brought in my own office furniture, much more comfy and the students enjoy sitting in comfortable seats when they meet with me.
Lighten up dood, someone has to show the future leaders of the free world that they can second guess that statist quo.
Aloha,
will
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Oct 11, 2011 - 09:34pm PT
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Calories in calories out, easier for some , harder for others. When it comes to obesity I have no sympathy.
calories in / out is the biggest factor, but it's not the end of the story. Metabolism and other factors play a big role. Some people can have very strict diets and the weight stubbornly barely comes off. Some people are thin while eating a lot and not trying. Someone who is obese is never going to become beanpole, and someone who is a beanpole is not going to all of a sudden become obese.
I think a big factor is the level of your blood sugar when your hunger kicks in. I think it's different for different people. I get hungry every 3 hours, my wife can go 6 hours. Obese people are probably hungry all the time.
I have less sympathy when people eat tons of crappy food (and a diet coke), but I know it's easier for some than others. I also know food is a psychological crutch for some people.
So I have sympathy, but I also know that it's up to the individual to eat right and exercise. It is easier (not just mentally but physically) for some than others.
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