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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 20, 2011 - 07:22pm PT
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Let me just preface this initial discussion by saying I have nothing against 'heads' really. I used to be one and still partake from time to time.
But in the 1800's, when the Brits brought opiates to China and offered (or imposed) them to the occupied Chinese, there were nefarious intentions involved. To pacify the population so they could be ruled more easily.
It wasn't until the Boxer Rebellion that the the Chinese had realized what was going on and revolted against the Brits.
The same parallels could be drawn with drug use in the current U.S. and Europe. Specifically marijuana use. It's a "harmless" drug that pacifies the mind and spirit, making the population uninterested in the goings on of the leadership...unless it involves pot-laws or getting legal weed.
Are we being pacified and used so we can be more easily 'occupied' by the elites and the sophists who run the show?
May also explain why George Soros, of all people, condones legal herbs. These people aren't stupid, and many have nefarious intentions, especially for power.
Discuss.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 20, 2011 - 07:32pm PT
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DON'T REVEAL MY SECRETS BLUEY!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 20, 2011 - 08:36pm PT
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No, I believe he's proven himself one of the most nefarious slimeballs alive at the moment.
And, you are spot on on the effects, but cultural synergies are much more complex.
You don't need a conspiracy to have a confluence of negative or positive social forces. In either direction the dominant dynamic tends to a positive reinforcing feedback loop.
The pothead passive culture is a symptom that becomes a reinforcing, but not initiating cause, contributing to further social decline.
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Clippy Thing
Trad climber
Texass
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Apr 20, 2011 - 08:53pm PT
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Shut up Blue Cockring you're dumb.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2011 - 09:06pm PT
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Shut up Blue Cockring you're dumb.
Explain why.
EDIT:
Dude, before you Post try using the Google Machine to at least attemp to get your facts right. . .
Why don't you try to be an adult and tell me why I'm wrong in my analysis, specifically.
EDIT: And try to use sh#t other than Wiki. When they're agenda is suited, they use facts, then, otherwise, they distort...
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Clippy Thing
Trad climber
Texass
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:09pm PT
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If they were forcing it upon us it would be legal.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2011 - 09:13pm PT
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If they were forcing it upon us it would be legal.
You're wrong. Most of American society rejects it. It is foisted upon us by weird liberal groups who don't realize they are useful idiots.
"It's natural, man". Where are they funded from?
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Clippy Thing
Trad climber
Texass
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:16pm PT
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If [they] really wanted to control people with weed everyone would have it.
There would be no prejiduce everyone would have it.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:20pm PT
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I posted a link but.
1. China was only occupied by Japan during WW2.
2, the Opuim Trade was about money, not control.
3. Pot Smokers come from all strata of American life and are very productive.
4. If you look at statistics; Alcohol is the Drug that needs to be outlawed as it does make people dumb, violent and non productive. . .
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jstan
climber
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:26pm PT
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Actually I have been contemplating something similar. That excessive pot use may contribute to uncontrolled and endemic anger coupled with a paranoia that shows up as a predisposition to believe conspiracy theories.
As one who has never employed pot and am liberal to boot, my two greatest disabilities, I appreciate that real situations can be complex. That I need to be sure of my "facts" before I reach conclusions. Not after.
By the way I was born Republican, remained so for a "good" forty years, walked the mall in protest of Johnson's absurd war but could not avert my eyes from the apparent evil of Richard M. Nixon.
W. convinced me only that incompetence is bad whatever the underlying ideology.
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Clippy Thing
Trad climber
Texass
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:27pm PT
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I have to agree, alcohol, not weed, really kills my motivation. God I love beer.
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:28pm PT
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When they're agenda is suited Their not they're get it right "big fella", maybe you do have a problem, maybe that public education.
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Clippy Thing
Trad climber
Texass
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:38pm PT
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Aleister, who the frack is that? Looks pretty fracked up.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2011 - 09:42pm PT
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All this crap is what I'm talking about. Bullwinkle misrepresenting the truth of the opium trade, alcohol is 'just as bad', and can be, but the pacifist nature of pot is unique. As with opiates.
Alcohol has been banned here, maybe for the same reason. It couldn't pacify a populace, it made them angry at the gov't, whether intoxicated or deprived.
Pot pacifies. And yeah, when you make a pothead start facing reality and start thinking clearly, guess what??? You get angry mobs.
They want to be subdued. But they are mellow and tuned-out. Drunks are different. They get boisterous and confrontational. Bad for rulers...
EDIT: Clippy, that's me....beer and doobage. Bad mix for me.
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giegs
climber
Tardistan
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:45pm PT
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A history of how substance use affects and is affected by cultural movements would be more interesting than attempting to demonize a thing without being more inclusive. One of the only meaningful lessons from history is that information, by its presence or absence, is used to manipulate people.
Hell, religion being the opiate of the masses was originally a positive statement.
Good luck with your agenda, but leave "history" out of it.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:50pm PT
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No, Corniss is the dumbest fuk on earth
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damo62
Social climber
Brisbane
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Apr 20, 2011 - 09:55pm PT
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"Hell, religion being the opiate of the masses was originally a positive statement"
Interesting, thanks.
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 20, 2011 - 10:02pm PT
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Religion may be the opium of the masses, but vodka is the vodka of the masses.
 Stephen Colbert
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