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Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 18, 2010 - 07:42pm PT
here it is, gangsta's. tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmEFfeYRWeI
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Nov 18, 2010 - 07:51pm PT
It's okay Pilgrims! you can come in here. I protect you from Tony. We'll have fun here for a bit. Thanks Tony Bird. Let's put up Callas in the same aria and have a comparison; after all we are arguing for the existence of God, aren't we?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuEmJZzuG9U&NR=1
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2010 - 08:13pm PT
i was hoping to clear up this question. now we're looking at polytheism.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Nov 18, 2010 - 08:16pm PT
All the really primitive cultures---like ours here---began with polytheism, TB.

We can expect improvement eventually from here on out, though. And even at some point, electing The One True Diva. I know you want Bev Sills, and I sure understand why. But we need to have yet another Tribal Council to do it.
Dave

Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
Nov 18, 2010 - 08:22pm PT
What is Catholicism again?
scuffy b

climber
Three feet higher
Nov 18, 2010 - 08:22pm PT
If there's a proof of God, what is the use of Faith?
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Nov 18, 2010 - 09:04pm PT
Good one Scuffy. Some just like leaping, you see. And I know you hate dynamic moves, Scuff, I do! I agree; in his heart of hearts, the believer wants in fact to be "unreal" and exert his selfhood upon the world solipsistically. That's the gist of it. It is a kind of ornate highly decorative irrationalism. Pilgrims, Scuffy is really good, you know. HIs only regret in life is he came to late to have invented oblique heel-and-toe.

Along these lines, I always thought that tornadoes were proof that God needed aluminum siding, myself.

Now back to the real business at hand. Tony posits that the mere existence of Bev Sills proves there is a supreme being--- that grace is therefore infinite and thus devine as embodied by her. However he ran into a little snag because he left out a whole bunch of other divas and now has the problem of polytheism 'n stuff in the main sex drive. Such divas as Maria Callas and her ilk and now he has to answer for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCSdz2hM_o4

Now I am ready for Tami to chime in here.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Nov 18, 2010 - 09:32pm PT
V. Fun Gobee. 'Tis the season, isn't it!

The hymns are even more fun if you play all of them at once except the "Yesterday" one--- that has to be by itself 'cuz it ruins the orthodoxy of the other five. I just did this on my giant monitor and it was a recommended experience. Real Vox Humana, I tell 'ya.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2010 - 09:49pm PT
i dunno, peter--other divas, other arias. once you've gotten alpha and omega together you don't have to go shopping any more. solipsism is no longer an issue.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Nov 18, 2010 - 10:11pm PT
As an aside Pilgrims, through the many years, this is what has been known as "farcing". Warren was real big into farcing, for example and insisted that Roger Derryberry erect a temple to farcing with Warren's memorabilia . Which is exactly what Roger did after Warren passed on. It's on the Eastside at Roger's house. Others have carried it along through time too. The east coast crowd was tremendous at it; the Vulgarians were only one of a number of groups that held a candle for "farcissimus".
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2010 - 09:14am PT
i saw the semper farcissimus memorial at mill creek last summer. tried searching it for a link here and came up with this, which is better:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1071324&tn=0&mr=0

park rat lists warren harding's favorite songs at the end of her anecdote. not an aria in the lot. i don't think warren understood opera. probably sang them all to himself. no matter, he understood one aspect of theology which escapes gobee entirely and a lot of others as well. god has a sense of humor, and most of the universe is a joke.

that might explain to huffcuss where all the antimatter went during the big bang. at the very least it will suggest to stephen hawking, if he can ever get over the fact that he was appointed lucasian professor, why gravity is a "given", and perhaps he'll stop trying to make a "taken" out of it. and, who knows, it might lead ed hartouni to give up wasting our tax dollars on plasmic fusion and doctor up something really useful like an anti-gravity belt. 5.14, here i come.

gobee, "yesterday" used to be the most overplayed song in the known universe, BITD when i used to go to piano bars and listen to the radio. perhaps that's all changed with the karaoke movement, but i still think it's the work of the devil.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Nov 19, 2010 - 11:05am PT
Have at it Ding. Not sure if she was buried or cremated already. Tony only has three nails I think also.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Nov 19, 2010 - 02:20pm PT
Brazilian women are all the proof I need.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2010 - 03:40pm PT
a certain persuasiveness to that:

http://www.perfectpeople.net/photo-picture-image/77592/sonia-braga.htm

now i've heard that if you meet the buddha on the road, you're supposed to kill him. god you can't kill, right? keeps coming back if you do.

pate's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaack?
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2010 - 04:58pm PT
i had it at 5:14. three seconds are important on a thread which deals with divinity.

fat lady? is there a fat lady?
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2010 - 05:47pm PT
i just hope if rrradam shows up peter will protect me from him. rrradam says all the hydrogen turned to helium within the first three seconds, and i think he's wrong.

the important thing to remember is that it took the universe more than 13 billion years to produce beverly sills.
MisterE

Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
Nov 19, 2010 - 07:00pm PT
Pantheism is where it's at!

Pantheism is the view that the Universe (Nature) and God are identical.[1] Pantheists thus do not believe in a personal, anthropomorphic or creator god. The word derives from the Ancient Greek: πᾶν (pan) meaning ‘all’ and θεός (theos) meaning ‘God’. As such, Pantheism denotes the idea that “God” is best seen as a way of relating to the Universe.[2] Although there are divergences within Pantheism, the central ideas found in almost all versions are the Cosmos as an all-encompassing unity and the sacredness of Nature.

Polytheism is the belief of multiple deities also usually assembled into a pantheon of gods and goddesses, along with their own mythologies and rituals.

Polytheism was the typical form of religion during the Bronze Age and Iron Age, up to the Axis age and the gradual development of monotheism or pantheism, and atheism. It is well documented in historical religions of Classical Antiquity, especially Greek polytheism and Roman polytheism, and after the decline of classical polytheism in tribal religions such as Germanic polytheism or Slavic polytheism. It persists into the modern period in traditions such as Hinduism, Shintoism, Chinese folk religion, etc., and it has been revived in currents of Neopaganism in the post-Christian West.

Polytheism is a type of theism. Within theism, it contrasts with monotheism, the belief in a singular God. Polytheists do not always worship all the gods equally, but can be Henotheists, specialising in the worship of one particular deity. Other polytheists can be Kathenotheists, worshiping different deities at different times.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 21, 2010 - 03:48am PT
someone mention Brazil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJkxFhFRFDA
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 21, 2010 - 03:55am PT

close enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw01019P19g
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 21, 2010 - 03:57am PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Mv3T3ANjY
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