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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 6, 2010 - 05:22pm PT
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Elephant's Perch or the Incredible Hulk, I've climbed on both, nothing else comes close. What do you think?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Which has the better belays with blue camalots?
I've heard there are some nice buttresses in the Bugaboos, which are in the Americas.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2010 - 05:56pm PT
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Great photo! I'll be going back to both areas in August. MH, Blue Camalots are more handy at the Hulk than the Perch.
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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Cool photo.
I will always have fond memories of the Perch. Pardner and I hiked into the lakes for a 5 day stay on a beautiful day. While eating lunch on one of those pretty slabs that dip into the highest lake, four lovely ladies showed up. They proceeded to get naked and jump into the lake. Definitely made the Perch second fiddle. They then yelled at us that we couldnt just sit there and watch so I joined them.
After we got out and dried off they came over and talked. They were going to some party in SV that night, I was tempted to blow may pardner off but that would have been flaky!
We managed the Mountaineers Route, Fine Line, Lowe Route and some other nice climb in 4 perfect days of climbing. But as good as those climbs were, I will never forget the skinny dippers!
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Fritz
Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
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Re: Elephant's Perch or the Incredible Hulk
The Incredible Hulk is outside my experience, and I don't have anything close to Donini's climbing/travel background.
However, I can mention that when we put up Pachydermial Pleasantries on “The Perch” BITD: it was very clean and solid rock.
Near the top of the route, when the angle of the rock got lower, there were some loose rocks.
Otherwise: no moss, grass, stacked-rock death-traps, or evil gorses impeded our upward progress.
Of course, the last glaciers had only recently departed: when I was climbing new routes in “The Tooths.”
Golsen: That "don't leave your climbing buddy to chase the women credo" is real sick. I did nearly the same thing once, and have regretted that I didn't dump the bastard and chase the woman. Ah! The wisdom of age.
Skinny dipping or swimming at the Perch Lakes is now frowned on. Campfires, camping anywhere near the lakes, mineral collecting, and large groups are illegal.
Mandatory Disclaimer. The wolves, biting flies, mosquitoes, bears, and rednecks are all "out of control." The closest Starbucks is nearly 60 miles away. If you think you can call 911, for a rescue, on your cell phone: you will die trying.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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Dude, yer gonna die up there!
Move along, mind the rail, nothin' to see here.
Shhhhhhhhh.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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If by "America" you mean the US, then... well, coming second is about as exciting as kissing your sister. On the other hand, if you mean "North America" then there's this:
There's a few others in that country to the north of "America", but this one is decent. The Skywalk Buttress on Mt. Combatant (across the Tiedemann Glacier from Mt. Waddington).
(I don't have a good shot of my own, so I pulled this photo, which is by John Scurlock, from the web. If he'd like it removed, I'll certainly remove it.)
And if you're looking for the real thing, there's always this:
I've heard there are a few in Alaska as well, but I've never seen them myself. And down in that other "America", the one south of the Equator, there might be a buttress or two...
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Fritz
Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
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OK! I surrender! Canada has better alpine rock routes, better beer, and better people.
What's not to like?
Since I have also climbed in the Bugaboos-----I have to vote for the Bugaboos.
To be honest! The climbs are much higher status, and the women you share your adventures with: will be much more impressed.
Bugaboos!
Woohoo!
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Inner City
Trad climber
East Bay
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this thread and these photos are fantastic. I love these climbing threads!
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snowhazed
Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
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HULK
but I should probably check out the perch to be sure
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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vote for the Perch.. due to the approach by boat over Redfish Lake..(got some pics somewhere...)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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There is some more alpine rock in the USA...
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Speaking of which, how do you eat an elephant?
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Hard Rock
Trad climber
Montana
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The Perch
I also like the boat ride on the Lake. Bring a tent and cooler and bivy at the end of the lake. Start early and you can make it back for the last boat.
I don't mind the Bugs or the Diamond. But in the late 70's (maybe 80's) I got to climb the North Face on North Trapper. That was my first big route climbing into the unknown. Didn't see anyone for 3 days. Made the summit at sunset - nice and orange.
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ddriver
Trad climber
SLC, UT
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I was much more impressed with the Perch than the Hulk. Closest thing to Chamonix-style rock I've witnessed in the 48.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2010 - 03:22pm PT
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Ah! And without bolts next to the cracks.
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Dudeman
Trad climber
Idaho/Beyond
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A few good “free” adventures to be had on The Perch for sure. There is some deteriorated rock plus loose and dangerous blocks on some of the routes. The Wendy! Tons of good routes all over the west though. Don’t think I could just choose one. Formation.
The Perch and Redfish Creek Canyon.
The Perch.
On The Beckey Direct
Two of the best picthes on The Mountaineers Route.
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