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tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Topic Author's Original Post - May 24, 2010 - 08:52pm PT
Ernest Hemingway said: "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering"

Julio Aparicio, one of Spain's most famous matadors, was gored in the throat today during a bullfight. The horrific injury has left him in critical condition:

"[The horn] went though the tongue and penetrated the roof of the mouth, fracturing the jawbone," one of the medics who worked on Aparicio told AFP news in Madrid.

[UPDATE: After two operations, it appears leading surgeon Maximo Garcia Pedros has saved Aparicio's life. The bull, however, was quickly killed by other matadors.]

The incident took place during the Festival of Saint Isidro, considered to be the most important event in the bullfighting calendar, at the Plaza de Toros las Ventas bullring, which can seat up to 24,000 people.

brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
May 24, 2010 - 08:55pm PT
Karma is a bitch.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 24, 2010 - 08:59pm PT
Karma is a bitch.

So is gravity.








Aren't we all tormenting that bull?
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Topic Author's Reply - May 24, 2010 - 09:02pm PT
Is it time to ban bull fighting? Not because this guy got gored but because it's barbaric & cruel.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
May 24, 2010 - 09:02pm PT
D'Wolf

climber
May 24, 2010 - 09:03pm PT
Three cheers for The Bull. Hemmingway was wrong; this is not sport.

Thom
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Topic Author's Reply - May 24, 2010 - 09:06pm PT
I agree D'Wolf...I think Hemingway was defining "sport" in terms of risking one's life.
salad

climber
Escondido
May 24, 2010 - 09:13pm PT
wow thats nuts, chalk one up for the bulls. hope the guys survives even tho i cant stand bull fighting.
RDB

Social climber
way out there
May 24, 2010 - 09:20pm PT
"Hemmingway was wrong; this is not sport."

Lucky too as Hemingway didn't say it.

"This is one in a long list of quotations mysteriously attributed to Ernest Hemingway. While the general public seem to agree that this is in fact a Hemingway quotation, scholars have some reservations and for good reason. The early Hemingway did not believe that bullfighting was a sport. For him it was a tragedy. See his October 20, 1923 article titled "Bullfighting A Tragedy" "
Dirka

Trad climber
SF
May 24, 2010 - 09:25pm PT
Ruff crowd and ruff picture.
karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
May 24, 2010 - 09:27pm PT
Bull got justice, plain and simple, before it suffered a cruel, barbaric death. Good for the bull.
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
May 24, 2010 - 09:30pm PT
Traditionally, when the bull wins, his life is spared and he lives his days out in a pasture. I guess the bull did not gore enough Matadores.
noshoesnoshirt

climber
Arkansas, I suppose
May 24, 2010 - 09:31pm PT
Yep, I'm rooting for the bull.
MisterE

Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
May 24, 2010 - 09:31pm PT
There goes tradition
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 24, 2010 - 09:39pm PT
At least this bull got to fight as opposed to all those burger bulls ( I know they're not bulls).
matty

Trad climber
los arbor
May 24, 2010 - 10:30pm PT
OUCH!!!

took a second for that one to kick in. At first I expected the typical horn to groin shot (such as):




but then I realized it was of a different nature:


neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
May 24, 2010 - 10:30pm PT
hey there tuolome tradster... hope i remember how to spell all that...

say, i can understand a guys need to ride a bull, though the bull does not enjoy it, it seems they have a more equal battle of aches and pains...

but, i never really did understand to hurt the bull, in these ways before they kill it...


well, what i was going to say is this:
in my jake smith ranch series, the guy in question lost his tongue and got his jaw broke up from a bull... but that was by getting kicked and stomped on.... so:

medically wise and such, i sure he gets some quality healing out of this...
lucky it did not hit his jugler vein... very lucky man that he lived through that... very strange situation...

kind of like "can you hit this far-side-of-moon target" = which would take a fluke to hit... and then it happens...

all in all, sad.... :(
i mean, it was his profession and his family, in that country would
be backing him up and proud of him... even though folks like me, may
not understand...

the picture just does not look real though with all the strange things
people do on computers these days....

had to edit here:

did not mean to make lite of the photo, just as to the oddity of how folks these day, make fake stuff to pass along for jokes, as to situations of sorrow... :(

i did get to read another aritcle on this... i was amazed that the bull did not rip him up, the article said that the bull STEPPED BACK and the horn then slid out... (sadly, so did all the blood that the was stopped up by its being in place)...

what a miracle, really, it could have been his last moments alive...
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Topic Author's Reply - May 24, 2010 - 10:36pm PT
RDB: thanks for the correction on the quote. I don't know that much about Hemingway. I remember hearing that quote being attributed to him. I've only read one Hemingway novel, "For Whom the Bell Tolls," but I thought he was a great fan of bullfighting.

What about this quote RE bullfighting?
"Bullfighting is the only art in which the artist is in danger of death and in which the degree of brilliance in the performance is left to the fighter's honor."
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/ernest_hemingway.html
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Topic Author's Reply - May 24, 2010 - 10:48pm PT
nee bee: this is not a PhotoShop job. You can see it happen in this video posted on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKkoslTNU6k&feature=player_embedded

My parents are both Spanish & I traveled in Spain when I was younger. In fact, I visited the small village, Tabara, where my Mom grew up. It is located near Salamanca. We visited the town on the festival of the patron saint of the village. On that day they perform a bullfight in the center of the village where they form a circle of wooden wagons to form an arena. The bullfighter they brought in fought the bull for about a 1/2 hour and then the towns people jumped into the ring and killed the bull anyway they could. I was horrified and ashamed by what I had witnessed.
NotIt

Trad climber
Malaga Cove
May 24, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
I want to shake the photographer's hand.

Incredible work.
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