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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 17, 2010 - 02:10am PT
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you know who you are.
you're fairly pathetic
you climbed there within the last couple days
fess up, and stop doing it, or brush it off when you are done.
when you tick mark, it says "I'm such a horrible climber I need a mark to tell me where the hold is, and oh btw, land managers, climbers are so stupid that they leave big marks on the boulders so that it is almost like graffitti! woot!"
yep, pretty much
anyone really disagree with the above?
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:56am PT
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Well, the rain must have washed those nasty tick marks off by now anyway.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
Lake Oswego, Oregon
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Jan 17, 2010 - 03:04am PT
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Bruce... THAT is not the point!
Have we arrived at a point where each and every hold must be pre-marked so we do not need to think for ourselves? Perhaps the rain will be so pesky that the culprit will use something more permanent next time.
Come on Mr./Mrs. Culprit! If you don't have the sac to boulder with SOME sense of adventure then stay home!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
climber
. . . not !
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Jan 17, 2010 - 03:05am PT
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I draw the line at drawing lines .
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2010 - 03:06am PT
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I draw the line at drawing lines .
funny, and well stated
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Jan 17, 2010 - 03:07am PT
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Tick marks are generally weak, but leaving them when you go is very weak.
Say you tick a hold, if send next try, take the tick. If it takes more than one more try, then you know where the holds are.
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safl
Trad climber
Wahoo, NE
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Jan 17, 2010 - 10:47am PT
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lowest common denominator.
[sigh]
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skychild
Trad climber
Birmingham, Alabama
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Jan 17, 2010 - 11:56am PT
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Castle Rock is weak... just sayin' Don
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Jan 17, 2010 - 12:18pm PT
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Skychild- maybe a dude from Alabama should not be calling a spot in California weak. I've had hundreds of really fun days up there. Sure it's no buttermilks, bit it is some of the best bouldering in the bay area. Oh, but I guess your just a dick. Just sayin.
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Srbphoto
Trad climber
Kennewick wa
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Jan 17, 2010 - 12:20pm PT
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Bluering has been mysteriously silent!
Maybe he's the culprit!
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jan 17, 2010 - 12:22pm PT
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urban bouldering.
these days, i'm just happy if it's a real tic mark under or below the target. half the time, they smear chalk all over the starting footholds.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jan 17, 2010 - 12:30pm PT
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Bluering has been mysteriously silent!
I just saw this. And it ain't me. It's prolly the pad people, lots of them out there nowadays. They're young-uns that don't know better. Sh#t I haven't been out in like 3 weeks. All my partners are posin'....
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Kevmn
Gym climber
Snob Franpsycho
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Jan 17, 2010 - 01:02pm PT
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Seems like just a decade or so ago the standard was to put a small dot tickmark next to the one or two holds that were hard to spot while climbing.---- if that----
Now you put a thick line next to every possible hold (useable or not) and make sure to smear chalk all over every potential foothold as well.
My how things degrade quickly in this sport.
Easier = Safer = Faster!
Whats next, bolting cracks so people don't need to learn how to place gear?
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
Lake Oswego, Oregon
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Jan 17, 2010 - 01:14pm PT
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Castle Rock is weak... just sayin' Don
Yep, I am sure Kauk, Bachar, Cos, Yabo, Price, DD and quite a few others would "agree."
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safl
Trad climber
Wahoo, NE
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Jan 17, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
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Opinions!
No matter what, someone will disagree. Who cares?
If it bugs you, then DO SOMETHING!
Or just bitch on the internets.
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Jan 17, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
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ive decided to go up with some paint and stencils. im going to paint circles around all the holds and number them so we all know how to climb each boulder problem the right way. I'm sick of not sending because I don't know the beta. Its not fair!
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
obsessively minitracking all winter at Knob Hill
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Jan 17, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
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Simmer down kids. no need to descend to the playground level.
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seth kovar
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:08pm PT
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During a similar epidemic in Little Cottonwood I made it a point to erase all tick marks and move them 6 inches to the left. -weschrist
that is awesome!
For real though, the rock out there (CRSP) is too great to have to look at that sh#t...
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:13pm PT
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Tick marks ARE weak.
What's needed are strips of multi-colored tape to mark the holds. Tape won't wash off in the rain.
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billygoat
climber
cruzville
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:25pm PT
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Take only pictures, leave only footprints. Just 'cause Castle has been trampled by partiers and pad people doesn't mean we should treat it any different than any other of our open spaces. That just brings us down to the level of the people who did the damage, and it elevates them to a level of power where they get to decide what remains pristine. Maybe, instead of relying on the rain, it's time to start thinking about organized clean-ups of the area.
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