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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 11, 2009 - 06:54pm PT
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"Sorry Virginia, there is no Santa Claus but women can have wet dreams or, more specifically, nocturnal orgasms- and that may be better than finding a new cashmere sweater under your tree.
Alfred Kinsey, the famous sex researcher, found that nocturnal emissions were reported by 90% of men, but by less than 40% of the women in his studies. So common are male wet dreams that the Bible has several references to nocturnal emissions. It doesn't, however, specifically address female nocturnal orgasms."
"If there be among you any man that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night, then shall he go abroad out of the camp, he shall not come within the camp."
- Deuteronomy 23:10
The above was lifted from page 158 of a book by Mark Leyner and Billy Goldberg M.D., that makes a very good stocking stuffer with an amusing subtitle;
WHY DO MEN FALL ASLEEP AFTER SEX?
More Questions You'd Only Ask a Doctor After Your Third Whiskey Sour
Hundreds of questions from why older people fart more to why your voice sounds funny when you suck helium to why Asians turn red after drinking alcohol are answered.
Why.
This is a Xmas thread.
What did you think it would be about?
lol
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marv
Mountain climber
Bay Area
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Nov 11, 2009 - 07:35pm PT
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looks like we need to bind genitalia lest souls go straight to hell
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Nov 11, 2009 - 07:44pm PT
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Where in the bible does it say you cant have wet dreams or for that matter masturbation, especially in the New Testament.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 08:01pm PT
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LEB!
Before you guys run it into the ground (don't let me stop you).
They simply went outside the camp, washed, bivied and came back in the morning. No condemning.
Some believe it was referring to urination.
The reason being their was a real heavy presence of the Lord there and He required a certain purity. This was during isolated instances such as preparing for war or a special ceremony.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 08:07pm PT
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Batrock- "Where does it say you can't..."
It doesn't.
It does say in the old testament somewhere not to "to not spill you seed on the ground at night" during battle campaigns (when there on the road) or going into battle.
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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C. Small wall climber.
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Nov 11, 2009 - 08:12pm PT
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The reason being there was a real heavy presence of the Lord there and He required a certain purity. This was during isolated instances such as preparing for war or a special ceremony. Or unnatural acts with the sheep, or each other.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 08:18pm PT
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Mighty Hiker!
The only sheep they brought along was for a blood sacrifice.
Got its throat sliced.
You would be outa luck there
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2009 - 08:24pm PT
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Great!
Talk about a thread getting fukked into a cocked hat!
Even Anders is speaking of unnatural acts and, although I had hoped to limit responses from females with no knowledge of nocturnal orgasms while bivouacing in slings, the damn thing has become loisofied!
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 08:33pm PT
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LEB!
Started with Adam and Eve.
They grabbed foliage and covered themselves.
He asked them WHY you covering yourself? Don't gotta hide it from me.
Anyway. There betrayal was painful to God.
He told them to skin (kill) an animal and make garments.
They had never witnessed or new of death before that.
Therefore, the yearly sacrifice of an unblemished lamb was initiated.
Christ (as I am sure you have heard 1,001 times) was the one and only human sacrifice required. To end all sacrifice for the penalty of SIN.
He was the ultimate unblemished Lamb of God.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Nov 11, 2009 - 08:33pm PT
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Yes women do have wet dreams.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 08:43pm PT
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Piton Ron!
Just stopped to correct a fallacy in the making.
Thread was already drifting Mightily.
Didn't see no WOMEN around.
These guys are gittin pretty desperate.
Wouldn't fall asleep in this neck of the woods.
Mighty has shifted ta talk-in bout sheep.
Kinda Vulgarious.
I am oughta hear...peace.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2009 - 08:47pm PT
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Thought it was "outta here".
Not in my ear?
Out of beer?
Didn't hear.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 09:22pm PT
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LEB!
I don't want to get into this hear.
Thought this was supposed to be a chick/dude submersion into understanding one of the more subtle aspects of human development or something like that.
You missed it on the covering it up part. They had been going around for years nakit... read above He said WHY are you covering yourself.
They are the ones who ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. There was no evil in their lives until they ATE. They believed they would become like God. Exact same reason Satan got the boot.
God was grieved because He created two people with every possible advantage to not desire to betray him. All man would do the same. They were as perfect and as close as anyone ever could get to God and yet the chose to betray Him. It is inherent in our free will nature.
He is perfect, He requires perfection. They were perfect until the fall.
Sin entered into their lives /world, and their was a penalty to pay to right themselves.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 09:32pm PT
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One again LEB they were hiding themselves from Him all of a sudden.
He said WHY, why are hiding? No need to.
Evil enter into them, not God or Holiness, it was an evil tree. Perverse thoughts came into their lives.
God had seen them naked for years, nothing wrong with it.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 09:39pm PT
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LEB!
Sure God could have made robots or puppets.
He gave us the free will to choose or reject Him.
Love or hate Him.
Would you want a wife or children that didn't have a choice to love you?
Puppets? Isn't that what love is all about.
Has nothing to with Adam and Eve. we have the same choice they do.
They were simply the first ones to make it.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 09:46pm PT
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LEB!
Your born with a choice. If you would have died any time after conception and say puberty or later your regarded innocent buy God. Some where along the road He would like you to make a choice. Some, retarded (sorry can't think of the PC word) obviously will never be capable because they are like little children all their lives=got Heaven when they die.
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 09:48pm PT
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LEB!
What happens say to 2,4,or6 year old when they die?
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 09:56pm PT
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LEB!
We acquired a sin nature.
The only other thing He could have done is created us in effect like Him.
And He would no longer be God.
Or He could have created us without free will.
No possibility to choose=Robots. We would have to love Him.
Tell us what else He could have done if you have a better idea.
Keep on taking each and every one of us through the garden of eaden?
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TripL7
Trad climber
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Nov 11, 2009 - 10:02pm PT
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LEB!
You are missing the relationship with original sin.
Yes we are born with it because we are just like Adam and Eve.
We are born into the world that has evil in it.
Yes it is inherent in us to sin.
The only way to remove it is to remove free will=puppets.
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