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justin01

Trad climber
sacramento
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 25, 2012 - 02:41am PT
I was in MN last week and climbed at Taylors falls. I took my first lead fall in a year+ on a 3 ft roof climb there. I was surprised getting to the roof that all I could find was a #2 micro as my first and only piece. I took a 15fter on it which I was not expecting (basalt is slick, who knew). I stopped 1ft from the ground inverted without feeling a thing, Thank God. A good #2 did the trick, much to my surprise. I guess a well placed micro is pretty bomber. I will be wearing a helmet consistently from now on, I swear!

My wife nearly swore off belaying me, she got launched a good 7ft. Thank God she can hold a belay. Maybe the soft landing of our weight delta did the trick.

Anyone have any harrowing stories of micros saving their bacon. I owe my legs to one.
briham89

Trad climber
los gatos. ca
Apr 25, 2012 - 02:59am PT
if that happened to me I would have gone Number 2 ...too

haha me 2!!

that is gnarly, i'm glad you are alive. I've never taken a whipper on a micro, but I am always surprised they hold when I bounce test them while aiding on crap placements

and oh ya









































YOU'RE STILL GONNA DIE
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Apr 25, 2012 - 03:20am PT
Taylors Falls, where the true Yosemite crack is


good save of bacon!

helmuts is good.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 25, 2012 - 05:57am PT
This hapened to me on P38 in the gunks about 1985 or so. the #3 ripped out and the #2 saved me. inverted a few feet from a pile of rocks, no lid. Does NOT mean that I will do stupid thing over micro gear just that I got lucky that day....
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Apr 25, 2012 - 07:54am PT
I never fall on anything smaller than a # 2 so I have no harrowing story.

I do have a 200 pound climber-friend who took a good fall onto one of those green micro cams. (Smaller than a 00). Pretty wild. I guess when gear is good and the rock is solid those things do their job.
mhd

Trad climber
St Paul
Apr 25, 2012 - 08:52am PT
That's sounds like a long fall on what was probably a short route, glad the nut held. What route where you on at Taylors Falls?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 25, 2012 - 09:08am PT
held a leader fall on a #2 stopper in the late 80s when my partner fell off the overhang crux of Anguish in the 'Gunks...

we had been climbing a bunch that year and gotten pretty lax in anchoring, I had a single piece of webbing draped around a flake for the belay, doubt that would have held if the stopper had blown, I was standing with slack to the anchor.

pledged then and there to be better at anchors, always.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Apr 25, 2012 - 09:30am PT
pledged then and there to be better at...

Been there done that.

... probably a lead reason why we're both here 20+ years later. :)
Sierra Ledge Rat

Social climber
Retired in Appalachia
Apr 25, 2012 - 09:44am PT
I took a 25 foot ripper onto a #3 wired stopper back in 1974, I came to rest upside-down just a couple of feet off the deck. Actually, the entire pitch zippered except for the #3 that caught me.

That was one of my 9 lives scratched off the list.

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 25, 2012 - 09:52am PT
The wires have been known to break, I'd back up any small wired you have to use if you think there is any chance of a fall with any consequences. Like a ground fall.
Grampa

Trad climber
OC in So Cal
Apr 25, 2012 - 10:28am PT
I think you are a very lucky climber. Had your belayer been tied into an anchor at the ground, would your fall have been shorter?

I saw a number 1 stopper pull at Tahquitz in solid granite. A lucky number 2 in the same crack held after the number 1 pulled.

( Hummm,where are my knifeblades? )
John Butler

Social climber
SLC, Utah
Apr 25, 2012 - 10:56am PT
I bet on these:

Branscomb

Trad climber
Lander, WY
Apr 25, 2012 - 11:05am PT
Sometime around 1973 or 74, Carlos and Ricardo Casa and I were doing some aid climb on Lower Index Town Wall and Casa took a 20 footer onto a #1 Coonyard stopper, and it held. Would have been a nasty one to the ledge if it hadn't. We saved that baby for years in reverence.
jstan

climber
Apr 25, 2012 - 11:06am PT
Why is everyone turning upside down? You need to prevent that. Upside down I doubt a helmet would do you much good.
Grampa

Trad climber
OC in So Cal
Apr 25, 2012 - 11:08am PT
Ron,
I agree Brother! I will use a stopper or hex first, and a springy thing as a last resort.
justin01

Trad climber
sacramento
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2012 - 11:19am PT
Yeah, I really have no idea why I ended up inverted. I figure I was in a weird crouched position after passing the roof, and just fell off balance. I didn't really see it coming, so I do not know what happened in the air. The rope was not between my feet, I may have just flipped over when coming to a rest.

Not sure the route name, I have never climbing in MN before, and I didn't have a book. It was a nice fractured portion of steep basalt, 70ft tall probably, and right off the river. The route felt like 5.9 so I wasn't feeling too too stressed.

As far as the fall length. The piece was about 3 or 4 ft below my feet, and then my wife added to the fall. So probably a 10 or more feet of actual falling, and then the rest was the catch. All I know is I ended up inches from the ground. I think the soft landing was definitely key though. I barely felt the catch at all, like landing in a bed of feathers really (or going to heaven)!

We definitely quit climbing for the day after that. It was time to head for the lake and have a beer.
jstan

climber
Apr 25, 2012 - 12:11pm PT
More than one person tells of becoming inverted. There is something badly wrong.

You do not want to fall head first.
Sierra Ledge Rat

Social climber
Retired in Appalachia
Apr 25, 2012 - 12:14pm PT
Why is everyone turning upside down? You need to prevent that. Upside down I doubt a helmet would do you much good.


I suppose that Sherlock is your first name?

I dropped in a #3 wired, made a couple of hook moves, and then was reaching around a corner to place another nut. It was a long reach and the piece was difficult to bounce test. I was in the process of transitioning from the hook to the nut (with one foot in one aider and the other foot in other aider) when the nut blew. I guess that's what flipped me.

The entire pitch zippered except for that #3 wired. I had go back up to get my hook & etrier that was still hanging up on the pitch!

He-he
He said he blew a nut
Grampa

Trad climber
OC in So Cal
Apr 25, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
Inversion can occur when you fall and the rope is between your legs and behind you.

This may also result in a (hopefully temporary) change in voice tone.

Another good reason for a helmet, in case you invert and smack the rock with your head.
Dos XX

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 25, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
Yes, what @grampa says about preferring nuts over cams, and the value of wearing a helmet not just for rockfall danger.

I told @grampa in person about an inverted fall taken by a family member, and how a helmet saved their bacon, but it's still such a chilling memory that I won't recount it here. Stoppers good, helmets good.
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