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justthemaid
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Jim Henson's Basement
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Jun 26, 2013 - 10:23am PT
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then your dog will leave you for a Schnauzer
... and a same-sex schnauzer at that
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jun 26, 2013 - 10:41am PT
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^^
Historic!.......(-;
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Ghost
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A long way from where I started
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Jun 26, 2013 - 10:45am PT
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Of course the big question is:
Tomorrow morning, and every morning thereafter, when the haters who opposed gay marriage on the grounds that it would degrade the sanctity of traditional marriage wake up and find that their traditional marriage is unchanged, what will they say?
Any bets?
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Jun 26, 2013 - 10:51am PT
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Any word on Prop 8? I'm betting it's thrown out.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Jun 26, 2013 - 10:52am PT
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Prop 8 is GONE!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 26, 2013 - 10:52am PT
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How come President Clinton went along with something that even he says is unconstitutional?
His Veto Pen is supposed to act as a "goalie", and beat back sh#t like DOMA that comes out of Congress. But instead, Clinton gave DOMA his signed seal of approval. WTF?
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 26, 2013 - 10:53am PT
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Yay and yahoo!!! Tempered by the truly depressing voters rights act decision, or more exactly some the states immediate reaction to try to disenfranchise large groups of voters.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Jun 26, 2013 - 10:54am PT
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Prop 8 ruling is sponsors lacked standing to appeal the lower court rulings.
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Jun 26, 2013 - 10:57am PT
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Crap! Now what's going to stop us all from turning gay? It's the end of Amurka!
(Actually, I'm feeling quite gay as a result of this decision!)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 26, 2013 - 11:04am PT
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We need to get some younger people on The Court.
If you're going to say "not my job, man", let's do it quickly. Dragging this out for months was chickensh#t. Lot's of people put their lives on hold waiting for these old farts to utter their pronouncement, and these inconsiderate shitheads put it off until the last possible minute.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 26, 2013 - 11:30am PT
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Really great news. Congratulations to all who simply want the same right to express their love as every other American.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 26, 2013 - 11:37am PT
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I dunno.
Has the Constitution changed any since then?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Jun 26, 2013 - 11:40am PT
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Ultimately, the only opinions that matter are those of the scotus justices.
Did Clinton believe it was unconstitutional when he signed it?
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 26, 2013 - 11:54am PT
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"This thread title is a microcosm of the mindset of the liberal left..."
Broad-brush statements like that don't help, Cragman.
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Jun 26, 2013 - 11:55am PT
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potty mouths
Oh Dean, I just love it! It's so evident you still are parenting a youngin'. Rock on "Dad"! They just never stay young long enough...
oh well, end of thread drift back to regular programming of shoutin' and hollerin'
Susan
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 26, 2013 - 11:59am PT
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Boo-friggin-hoo Cragman.
Bigots suck.
And bigotry drove Prop 8.
Prop 8 supporter, i.e, bigots, still SUCK.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 26, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
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Mr Milktoast writes:
"Do try to shake off the 90s, they weren't really that bad. Pretty good actually."
Except for the music. Punk disappeared. Jazz Fusion was replaced by *smooth jazz* nonsense. SRV passed away and then Rock turned into grunge. Couldn't smoke at concerts anymore. Jesus.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 26, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
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I have some wonderful friends who are gay.
So are you in favor of allowing your gay friends to get married? Or, even though you call them your "wonderful friends", do you think they're actually second-class citizens who don't deserve the same rights as your wonderful straight friends?
Serious question here Dean, and I'm not calling you names, nor denying that you have the same right to an opinion as anyone else.
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Barbarian
climber
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Jun 26, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
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Prop 8 was simply a constitutional issue. The only question was whether the majority of voters have the legal right to deny constititional rights to any minority group. In the end it doesn't matter which minority group or groups were involved...that was of no bearing in the case...it was just noise.
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