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survival
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Terrapin Station
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Jun 27, 2016 - 11:14am PT
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jun 27, 2016 - 11:21am PT
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Crooked Hillary Clinton is giving a speech now- discussing the Orlando attack. She pivoted to gun control again -- and restrictions. She refused to mention terrorism as the cause of the shooting in Orlando.
Orlando Terrorist Swore Allegiance To ISIS Before The Shooting That Killed 50 People. “Omar S. Mateen, the Florida resident suspected of killing 50 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, called 911 before the shooting and swore allegiance to Islamic State, NBC News said on Twitter. In a posting on its web site, MSNBC said Mateen swore allegiance to Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.” (Timothy Ahmann, “Suspected Orlando Shooter Called 911, Swore Allegiance To Islamic State: NBC,” Reuters, 6/12/16)
This Is Consistent With Clinton’s Past Denials Of Radical Islam
Clinton Refuses To Categorize Terror As “Radical Islam.” ABC’S GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: “You’ve also been reluctant to say we’re fighting radical Islam. I wonder why not. Isn’t it a mistake to not say it plain that the violence is being pushed by radical elements in that faith?” CLINTON: “Well, that’s a different thing. Radical elements who use a dangerous and distorted view of Islam to promote their jihadist ambitions, I’m fine with that. I say it all the time. And I go after Islamists, too.” STEPHANOPOULOS: “So what’s the problem with radical Islam?” CLINTON: “Well, the problem is that that sounds like we are declaring a war against religion. And that, to me, is number one, wrong.” (ABC’s “This Week,” 12/6/15)
D.T.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jun 27, 2016 - 11:26am PT
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Let's just come out and say it; Trump's presidency is mandated by God.
Shuffle along the stages of grief suckers, but accept the fact that the anti-Christ Hildabeast is being vanquished by God.
hehehe
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 27, 2016 - 11:31am PT
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Stop it
We are nothing more or less than evolved primates
The laws of nature and physics have never been broken by command or incantation.
Deal with it, grow up,
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trailridge127
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Loveland, CO
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Jun 27, 2016 - 11:34am PT
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I would maybe vote for the first woman president, but she would have look remotely feminine, even a little bit. Hillary pantsuits are terrible.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 27, 2016 - 11:37am PT
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Breaking news!!
Imaginary Sky Wizard and aliens from Lunar Ark endorse Trump!!
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Mighty Hiker
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Outside the Asylum
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Jun 27, 2016 - 11:39am PT
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So that GCF doesn't have to do all the heavy lifting...
Barring unexpected developments - and as politics is subject to chaos theory, those always have to be allowed for - Clinton will be nominated by the Democrats and Trump by the Republicans. Otherwise, at this point the election seems a lock for Clinton - although perhaps only 10% of voters are undecided. The key remaining questions, then:
1. Economy. (Perceptions, claims, reality.)
2. Getting a high turn out to the polls, especially of young people.
3. Ensuring that Clinton wins as many 'swing' states as possible.
4. Ensuring that as many Democrats as possible are elected to the Senate and House.
5. The vice-presidential nominees for each party. Clinton is 68, Trump is 70. The latter at least clearly isn't physically fit. At the end of a first term, Clinton would be 73, Trump 75. Which means that in the interests of their country, both should nominate someone who is younger, but with credible support and experience. Just in case.
It seems likely that Clinton will pick someone who is moderately liberal, younger, has experience, and who can be presented as a more attractive if not populist person, so appealing in particular to young people. The US may not be ready for an all-female ticket, but it wouldn't be surprising if Clinton chose someone of say Hispanic descent.
As Trump is well behind in current polls, he seems likely to do a McCain, and try something extreme. He has nothing to lose. Ultimately, though, he's most likely to double down, throwing more red meat to his base, and ignoring advisors who undoubtedly are urging him to pick someone reasonably stable who will broaden the ticket.
Should Trump be elected, it seems likely that the world will fall into a recession, which the Russians and Chinese will look upon with glee. And, given the checks and balances built into the US system, that he will either resign or be impeached within two years.
(The main sources of unexpected developments being exposes of Trump's sleazy record, Europe and the United Kingdom, and world economies. There seems little doubt that the US Federal Reserve will move heaven and earth from now to November, to keep interest rates low and reduce the possibility of a recession, after almost eight years of steady growth under Obama.)
And I suggest the Klimbo read up on Zoroastrianism, the basis for his bizarre mish-mash of Judaism, Christianity, and gullibility.
Edit: Neither Trump's supposed religion, nor Clinton's, is of much relevance to what will happen. Clinton is nominally a Methodist, but like most of the US leadership is likely in reality a deist or agnostic. Trump is clearly not religious in any meaningful sense of the word.
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Escopeta
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Idaho
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Jun 27, 2016 - 12:06pm PT
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So, the current status is that this thread is the new anti-religion thread and no longer about Drumph?
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dirtbag
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Jun 27, 2016 - 12:11pm PT
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Crooked Hillary Clinton is giving a speech now- discussing the Orlando attack. She pivoted to gun control again -- and restrictions. She refused to mention terrorism as the cause of the shooting in Orlando.
Orlando Terrorist Swore Allegiance To ISIS Before The Shooting That Killed 50 People. “Omar S. Mateen, the Florida resident suspected of killing 50 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, called 911 before the shooting and swore allegiance to Islamic State, NBC News said on Twitter. In a posting on its web site, MSNBC said Mateen swore allegiance to Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.” (Timothy Ahmann, “Suspected Orlando Shooter Called 911, Swore Allegiance To Islamic State: NBC,” Reuters, 6/12/16)
This Is Consistent With Clinton’s Past Denials Of Radical Islam
Clinton Refuses To Categorize Terror As “Radical Islam.” ABC’S GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: “You’ve also been reluctant to say we’re fighting radical Islam. I wonder why not. Isn’t it a mistake to not say it plain that the violence is being pushed by radical elements in that faith?” CLINTON: “Well, that’s a different thing. Radical elements who use a dangerous and distorted view of Islam to promote their jihadist ambitions, I’m fine with that. I say it all the time. And I go after Islamists, too.” STEPHANOPOULOS: “So what’s the problem with radical Islam?” CLINTON: “Well, the problem is that that sounds like we are declaring a war against religion. And that, to me, is number one, wrong.” (ABC’s “This Week,” 12/6/15)
D.T.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 27, 2016 - 12:19pm PT
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“I went to an Ivy League school. I’m very highly educated. I know words. I have the best words,”
D Trump
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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Jun 27, 2016 - 12:31pm PT
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just say yesh to Yeshua
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Jun 27, 2016 - 12:34pm PT
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locker posted:
As we all know, movies are the best source of factual information...
Actually it's comedy shows...Many folks didn't know how to think about it all when Jon Stewart quit ;-)
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Jun 27, 2016 - 01:31pm PT
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only Klimmerabi's upinya matters
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 27, 2016 - 01:34pm PT
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Can you say "President Clinton?"
Sure.....I knew you could.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 27, 2016 - 01:42pm PT
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That's "Mistress Clinton."
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