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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 26, 2016 - 08:17pm PT
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^^^ id write in Biden. He speaks the most about the message, and not the messenger.
I am more disturbed by her taking huge sums from corporations and banks.
How does her backers give her a greenlight when she receives private money from Saudi Arabia AND Iran???
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 26, 2016 - 08:18pm PT
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No way man, no way. Write in Frank Zappa.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jun 26, 2016 - 08:22pm PT
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The email situation is so strange, and Hillary is so evasive, you have to wonder what motivated her to behave in such a manner while Secretary of State.
I put it down to Ed Snowden. They don't want to acknowledge that his actions changed the actions of Cabinet-level leaders.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jun 26, 2016 - 08:26pm PT
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What are you gonna do when Trump goes down? BTW this may well be before November.
He will then have to admit that his God and Trump are both frauds.
Curt
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jun 26, 2016 - 08:39pm PT
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"Hillary will be a disaster"
Fortune teller?
Ask the people of NY is she was a disaster. They re-elected her to the Senate with 67% of the vote. She has a record of being extremely hard working.
Yeah, she didn't follow proper State Dept e-mail procedures. Totally overblown "scandal", in my opinion. Serious? Sure, but not a deal breaker.
All in all, she's held up well for being the Republicans Public Enemy #1 or 2 for more than 20 years. That alone should qualify her for the job.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jun 26, 2016 - 08:40pm PT
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Very good analysis/summation in your last two posts, Tom. Much appreciated.
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c wilmot
climber
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Jun 26, 2016 - 08:42pm PT
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the email issues is not minor
if she cant maintain the standards asked of the lowest level govt employee than what can she do?
and her foreign policy was a disaster during her time as Secretary of state
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 08:46pm PT
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I have to vote. Everyone must vote.
If not for Hillary, then at least against Trump.
Obama in 2012 was similarly the lesser of two evils. Many of Obama's 2008 promises were deliberately deceitful, blatant lies.
He said he would have the most open, transparent administration in history. Then, his was the most secretive. It was during Obama's term in office that Wikileaks, Manning and Snowden showed just how secretive and deceitful the government had become.
Obama said he would encourage and applaud government whistle-blowers. Then, he invoked the Espionage Act more than all former presidents combined, to harass, intimidate and persecute government whistle blowers.
When a transparent government that respects the privacy of its citizens turns inside out, and becomes an opaque surveillance state watching everybody, something is tremendously wrong.
Just on the surveillance issue alone, Obama has been a disaster. But, probably not a disaster on the level of a President McCain or Romney.
I put it down to Ed Snowden. They don't want to acknowledge that his actions changed the actions of Cabinet-level leaders.
Ken B has a very good point there. It would be internationally embarrassing to acknowledge that a low-level CIA contractor acting alone could influence foreign and domestic policy.
But, again, the use of the private email server was used to conceal government business from the public, and that exacerbates the whole opaque surveillance state situation.
As President, Hillary will be more exposed to embarrassing situations, and she will probably further conceal what the government is up to. And, she will allow the NSA to continue its illegal surveillance of private citizens.
Disaster.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jun 26, 2016 - 09:19pm PT
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I have sinned at the alter of the ST politard forum threads.
I fed the troll, not once but on several occasions.
ROFL
Yeah, and it's been forever since my last confession. You are holier than I.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 09:28pm PT
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I am more disturbed by her taking huge sums from corporations and banks.
You should be, it will place her and not The Donald or which ever replacement that slithers from the Cleveland convention into the White House.
The flood gates for more money was ushered in by Cit. United...
... things come home to roost.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jun 27, 2016 - 12:10am PT
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Schoolies for Trump
Oh, how they worship at the altar of Dreamboat Donny.
Our Trump, in Mar-a-Lago, hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come, your will be done, in America, as it is in Hades.
Give us, this day, our daily dread.
And never forgive those trespassers, as we don't forgive those who have trespassed into America.
Then, lead us off into temptation, and deliver us your evil.
For, yours is the greed for the power and the glory, for ever and ever.
Satanas vobiscum.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 27, 2016 - 06:27am PT
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Trump, Clinton less popular than NRA, Planned Parenthood: Poll finds
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jun 27, 2016 - 06:52am PT
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I am more disturbed by her taking huge sums from corporations and banks.
In this respect, Clinton has done little different than any other major party candidate running for president in recent history--except for Bernie. If this is what really bothers you, blame the system that requires raising hundreds of millions of dollars to run for President--not Hillary.
Curt
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jun 27, 2016 - 07:02am PT
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Actually, the most disturbing would be her murderous behavior as Secretary of State.
Her support of the empire's neocon agenda in the ME/North Africa is far worse than improper email servers or the obvious millions in bribes that 'everyone does'.
Sad state we're in.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jun 27, 2016 - 07:29am PT
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Trump thinks he is G_d so accepting his son makes sense.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 27, 2016 - 07:43am PT
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Trump acceptance of Jebus is nothing more than him knowing how to brilliantly work the scam
Say whatever the idiots want to hear, if they want you to say you Love Jebus, then you will say you accepted Jebus as your personal savior,
"The Bible is my favorite book!"
what a crock of sh#t
It's all about the con.
I do demand that Klimmer go on an apology tour on ST after Trump fails to Win.
Trump will either bail from the con with his pockets full of cash, or the GOP will kick him to the curb and install an establishment Neo-con, or he will lose to Hillary.
That is G-d's prophecy.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 27, 2016 - 08:13am PT
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One assumes the Donald will be outraged
he may well be, but first he has to find someone to explain it to him
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jun 27, 2016 - 08:16am PT
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I do demand that Klimmer go on an apology tour on ST after Trump fails to Win.
After trump loses, I don't think we will hear from Klimmer again.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 27, 2016 - 08:33am PT
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Klimmer and pyro, here is your tough guy strongman candidate mocking a disabled person:
Klimmer: I guess you and G-d love presidents who bully disabled people.
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