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couchmaster
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Nov 21, 2015 - 02:42pm PT
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"officials in multiple departments and agencies are concerned about accelerating Syrian refugee admissions and fear that the lack of caution will result in a range of new terrorism cases domestically.
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couchmaster
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Nov 21, 2015 - 02:44pm PT
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And they are already stretched thin:
"Given the current high-threat environment, agencies are stretched extremely thin in terms of their ability to monitor suspects and disrupt plots. This year the FBI has been forced to confront nearly a thousand terrorism-related cases in every single U.S. state, according to FBI
Director Comey, straining law enforcement resources. “We had to surge hundreds of people from criminal cases—which are important—and move them over to the national security side,” he noted. Comey said he was unsure what the Bureau would do if there was a return to this level of operational tempo
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couchmaster
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Nov 21, 2015 - 02:45pm PT
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Finding 10:
America’s security is put at risk when partner countries fail to conduct adequate counterterrorism checks on refugees and are unable to cope with the radicalization challenges created by mass migration.
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couchmaster
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Nov 21, 2015 - 02:45pm PT
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Does anyone else wonder what the study's recommendations were?
Wait for it. ......
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couchmaster
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Nov 21, 2015 - 02:45pm PT
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Wait for it........
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couchmaster
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Nov 21, 2015 - 02:47pm PT
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The recommendations are not a BBC link from 2012 like was used to rebut similar information upthread. This study concluded November 2015.
That's this month for those of you like Norton and the Chief who cannot think clearly.
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couchmaster
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Nov 21, 2015 - 02:48pm PT
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Waaaaiiiiittttt............
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 21, 2015 - 02:52pm PT
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And all of that is on us. We bear responsibility in the infux as a consequence of our actions. Can't handle the responsibility of the consequences of our actions? Then don't pre-emptively start wars and invade countries in pursuit of a political agendas. But, once the deed is done, the consequences our ours to own and bear and if we can't - and sacrifice our own values to avoid them - then we aren't worthy of calling ourselves Americans without diminishing all that once stood for. Cowardice is a choice and this ranks up there with interning our Japanese population and abandoning our Laotian fighters to twist in the wind on withdrawing from Vietnam. There simply is no fear-based rationale which can remove the stain.
P.S. Thanks Studly, we don't see eye-to-eye on much, but glad to hear we do on this.
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 21, 2015 - 03:01pm PT
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Then don't pre-emptively start wars and invade countries in pursuit of a political agenda.
Ah, is there something new that we are missing.
When did the US invade, attack and start a war in Syria where all these Syrian refugees are running from by the tens of thousands due to a civil war that had nothing to do with... ISIS?
BTW Healyje, these Syrians have been running out of Syria for the past four so years. Why is now that we have to suddenly become compassionate and take them in.
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couchmaster
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Nov 21, 2015 - 03:13pm PT
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"And all of that is on us. We bear responsibility in the infux as a consequence of our actions. Can't handle the responsibility of the consequences of our actions? Then don't pre-emptively start wars and invade countries in pursuit of a political agendas. But, once the deed is done, the consequences our ours to own and bear and if we can't - and sacrifice our own values to avoid them - then we aren't worthy of calling ourselves Americans without diminishing all that once stood for."
I agree. But why not make a safe zone and supply folks needs over there on Jordan and Turkeys border?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 21, 2015 - 03:19pm PT
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Because it's not workable, sustainable and, if left to fester, the conditions in such long-term camps will ultimately just breed more terrorists among the disaffected. Far better to distribute them widely and keep their time in such camps to a minimum.
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The Chief
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Nov 21, 2015 - 03:25pm PT
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^^^^^ODD... Jordan has been taking in and caring for them since day one that this Civil War began. Which we had NOTHING to do with.
They as of last count have taken in over 1.2 Million Syrians and are still taking care of them all.
That btw is where we will get the 10K that our POTUS wants to take in, from.
Far better to distribute them widely and keep their time in such camps to a minimum.
Where are they going to stay when they arrive here Healyje?
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WBraun
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Nov 21, 2015 - 03:29pm PT
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Where are they going to stay when they arrive here Healyje?
Owens Valley ... :-)
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The Chief
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Nov 21, 2015 - 03:44pm PT
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Ah, no wonder they are rebuilding Manzanar so quickly. Good call Werner.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Nov 21, 2015 - 03:45pm PT
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The u.s. Has absorbed every waive of immigrants and each has ended up fully assimilated and productive. I don't see what the big deal is, besides the usual racism and ignorance.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 21, 2015 - 03:49pm PT
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Where are they going to stay when they arrive here Healyje?
It doesn't matter. Where have immigrant's alway stayed? Wherever they can.
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The Chief
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Nov 21, 2015 - 04:01pm PT
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It doesn't matter.
Seriously? Where are they going to when they arrive on US soil?
These aren't immigrants. They are refugees that will eventually return to their homeland of Syria when the Civil War is over. That is according to the POTUS.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 21, 2015 - 04:02pm PT
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It doesn't matter. Where have immigrant's alway stayed? Wherever they can.
Can they stay at your house?
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couchmaster
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Nov 21, 2015 - 04:28pm PT
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We could make room in my house. Most Muslims are real good folks. However, note this testimony by Michael Steinbach, assistant director of the Counterterrorism Division at the FBI on Feb. 11, in which Steinbach was asked about the problem of vetting Syrian refugees.
"The concern in Syria is that we don’t have systems in places on the ground to collect the information to vet,” Steinbach said. “That would be the concern is we would be vetting databases that don’t hold information on those individuals, and that is the concern”
So the real big issues are these 3 facts:
A) There WILL be terrorists in that group. The people who study that for a living do not know how many but they all agree that there will be. Lets just say "some.
B) They prefer Sharia law over the US constitution, and being in the US hasn't changed that for other muslims as a high percentage want Sharia law. So forget about freedom of speech if you feel like freely talkin sh#t about Islam like most of you all do about Christians.
C) There is now a a high percentage of rapes in Sweeden from Muslim immigration. Maybe it mostly the hot blonds, I don't know, but rapes skyrocketed. I'm sure it will be fine if we can get our wives and daughters to stop wearing dresses and wear Chadors or Burquas though.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 21, 2015 - 04:46pm PT
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Can they stay at your house?
Yes.
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