Are you telling me that the problem stems from the fact that they are reputedly actively expanding beyond the original allotment of land given to them after WWII .

1. Was not this land originally theirs in the very first place - way back when. Correct me if I am wrong but did they (the Jews) not get expelled from their own land somewhere in the biblical times and it was really their land, in the very first place.

2. Are you telling me that the problem stems from the fact that they are reputedly actively expanding beyond the original allotment of land given to them after WWII .....OR is all of this squabbling over the fact that it was given to them in the first place. Don’t they deserve a home like everyone else has (esp after all they have been through) and was not it really their home, in the first place.

Also one more point. Is this really about land or is it really more about the fact that Arabs hate Jews - always have and always will. Is there not an element of irrational hatred of these people just by virtue of the fact that they are Jews. That is how it comes across to me.

XYZ land was given to Israel way back after WW2 and the people who were living in the land were then resentful because they got displaced. Is that correct?

1. Was not this land originally theirs in the very first place - way back when. Correct me if I am wrong but did they (the Jews) not get expelled from their own land somewhere in the biblical times and it was really their land, in the very first place.

2. Are you telling me that the problem stems from the fact that they are reputedly actively expanding beyond the original allotment of land given to them after WWII .....OR is all of this squabbling over the fact that it was given to them in the first place. Don’t they deserve a home like everyone else has (esp after all they have been through) and was not it really their home, in the first place.

Also one more point. Is this really about land or is it really more about the fact that Arabs hate Jews - always have and always will. Is there not an element of irrational hatred of these people just by virtue of the fact that they are Jews. That is how it comes across to me.

I don't hear the same sort of hatred and desire for annihilation coming from the mouths of Jews as I do from Arabs, but so be it.

So then, how, did this thing become a lib versus conservative issue. Just about every lib I know is anti-Jew in this conflict and passes condescending remarks about them with respect to this issue as well as the USA's support of Israel. Just about every conservative I know (including me) seems to have sympathies on the side of the Jewish people. How did this become a lib versus conservative issue over here in the US?

But how does this line up to a lib versus conservative divide on this issue?

Christian Zionism is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy. It overlaps with, but is distinct from, the nineteenth century movement for the Restoration of the Jews to the Holy Land, which had both religiously and politically motivated supporters. The term Christian Zionism was popularized in the mid-twentieth century. Prior to that time the common term was Restorationism.[1]

Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus. This belief is primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian Dispensationalism. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christian, as a means fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[2][3][4]

Many Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the chosen people of God, along with the “ingrafted” Gentile Christians[Romans 11:17-24] (dual-covenant theology). This has the added effect of turning Christian Zionists into supporters of Jewish Zionism.

I don't know, Karl, it sounds a tiny bit over-simplistic at best

“Present Trends in Palestine”, an MI5 briefing paper written in August 1946, reported on the activities of the Stern Gang. This was the terrorist group that had assassinated Lord Moyne, the British military governor in Egypt in 1944.

“In recent months it has been reported that they [the Stern Gang] have been training selected members for the purpose of proceeding overseas and assassinating a prominent British personality—special reference having been made several times to Mr. Bevin in this connection,” the paper noted.

One of the leading lights of the Stern Group, which had by this time renamed itself Lehi, was Yitzhak Shamir who became prime minister in 1983 and whose tenure in the highest office in Israel was second only to Ben Gurion.

Another paper, “Threatened Jewish Activity in the United Kingdom, Palestine and Elsewhere”, prepared for the Prime Minister Clement Attlee, focused on the activities of the Irgun.
It noted that the Irgun, led by Menachem Begin—later to become prime minister of Israel in 1977—who had a £2,000 price on his head, “was responsible in the past for the liquidation of members of the police and the military whose activities have been judged especially worthy of Jewish resentment in Palestine.”

The paper was written in the aftermath of a terrorist bombing by the Irgun that had in the previous month blown up the British headquarters in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 people—Britons, Arabs and Jews—and injured many more.

According to him, Palestine was a British protectorate and after the second World War Britain was economically drained and anxious to be rid of its protectorates, at that point. He claims that the Brits did not necessarily favor the conversion of Palestine into Israel but, given their economic and political (drained) status at the time s/p WW2, that they were unable to stem the pressure from the Zionist movement - along with other political forces in effect at that time - toward that end. He also explained a whole lot of the other forces and factors which came into play resulting in the current state of affairs.