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raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:55pm PT

Had nothing to do with any blog.

Sure, you just happened to came up with information that was posted today at you favorite blog. The author of the quote are different though.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 4, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
If so, Chief, you should easily be able to disprove that graph.

But you don't even know how trend lines are constructed.

raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:00pm PT

But as Sketch posted.... ZERO WARMING in 17 years. No noise. Starting to look grim for the anthro feedback THEORY.

It is nice to see that freethinkers like yourself are not easy to fool. The blog post that you took your information from even included 6 other data sets that show a warming but it was at the end of the post so you probably missed it.
Cragar

Trad climber
MSLA - MT
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
Do you know why 17 yrs is or is not important? 17 yr results are a bit different than 34yr.


monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
LOL, no warming from an extraordinary jump in warming.

A start well above the trend line.

raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
Why don't you post the second figure in your source instead?
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
The trend lines are obviously incorrect. The line don't go through the first and last data point.
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
I am sure that you can find the information yourself. UAH seems to be .17 degrees on that time interval or something like that.
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
I even answered your question.

I can give you two hints about the chief's source.

You read that blog.
It is possibly to put words into google and found out where on the internet someone wrote something.

But really why should I help a dishonest liar like you (using your use of those words)? Have you found the several authors yet? Do the CO2 increase in the atmosphere when more plants grow?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
There's your chance to prove him wrong, Sketch.

Will you do it? I doubt it.
Cragar

Trad climber
MSLA - MT
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
and it doesn't matter. that is for the ego.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 4, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
The Chief...No longboard or scabbed knuckles but we use to pedal our butts off and catch big rigs at the top of sherwin grade on our italian road bikes and draft them all the way to the bottom...good , clean fun...RJ
raymond phule

climber
Nov 4, 2013 - 05:04pm PT

asked: What was the warming per decade for those other six temperature records?

You responded with: I even answered your question.

Please, read my answer to you post. It even includes a number. No it is not the post when I wrote that I answered you. It is the post before. Do you find it now? You even quoted it. Does that make it easier?


And then defend you lack of response by attacking me.

Sorry, it is hard to argue with an idiot. I actually thought that you read my post when you quoted it.


One big difference between me and you is I'll make an effort to back up my claims. I admit... I'll bail when it's obvious the other guy is just being a d1ck.

No, the difference is that you are a dishonest liar. You first start to attack the person that points out the errors in your posts. Then when it is obvious that you are wrong you just ignore the point instead of admitting that you where wrong.


But, I typically try to back up my claims if the other guy isn't a d1ck.

Yes, you sometimes try to do that. The problem is that you almost never manage to do it.


On the other hand, you run away like a little pus$y, at the first challenge.

We must live in completely different universes and read different forums or something like that. I have challenged many of your ridiculous posts and you are the person that have run away.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Nov 5, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
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blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Slate's guy denies there's a climate change "pause" going on.
See http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/11/05/climate_pause_nope.html
Just skimmed it--didn't seem to convincing.
One of his "points" (he has at least 2) are that almost all the alleged warming is in the oceans.
He does a decent job of trying so scare us to that effect (bleached coral, oh my), but funny how the alarmists don't normally say that almost all the alleged global warming is happening in the oceans--might limit their ability to fleece the public for more "research," junkets, and such.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:03pm PT
Blahblah sems to be just now waking up to this ocean stuff but still remains unconvinced, lol.

wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
As they all do monolith.

Why they ask ,"Is just the last 160 years , all they have considered"?

Again ,just cant figure that out,aye?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators

FRUITCAKES!
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
but funny how the alarmists don't normally say that almost all the alleged global warming is happening in the oceans--might limit their ability to fleece the public for more "research," junkets, and such.

Well no, this this has been a major focus of research and discussion (including many posts on this thread) over the past few years. Stefan Rahmstorf provides an up-to-date primer, also cited and discussed upthread.

The amount of heat stored in the oceans is one of the most important diagnostics for global warming, because about 90% of the additional heat is stored there (you can read more about this in the last IPCC report from 2007). The atmosphere stores only about 2% because of its small heat capacity. The surface (including the continental ice masses) can only absorb heat slowly because it is a poor heat conductor. Thus, heat absorbed by the oceans accounts for almost all of the planet’s radiative imbalance.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Nov 5, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
Blahblah sems to be just now waking up to this ocean thing . . .
No, seen it on this site for a while and am sure it's widely known to anyone who does anything more than just reads the popular press.
But that's the point -- the popular press doesn't seem to report that -- I guess it wouldn't sell too many papers or attract too many eyeballs to say something like "hey you know all that global warming we're trying to scare you with--if you're a land dwelling creature, it many not really be too big a deal!
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