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guyman
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Moorpark, CA.
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How else could someone like Jeb Bush be considered a RINO?
John... basically he is a RINO, wants to get his bros old crew together, to carry on with all the stupid stuff his bro and dad did. You know, spend 5x more $$$$$ on the stuff that helps rich ass stockbrokers and other Wall Street types. They are to scared to work on and Fix the Border/immigration mess/work on a healthcare system/come up with a realistic plan to deal with the Mid-east and other problem spots.
All that would be work, hard work, because you need to get down with the democrats and work things out.
Those establishment types only care about one thing: staying in power (even if minority party only power) so they can funnel the $$$$$ to their friends (financial backers really)and keep things as they are now (basically FUBAR) so yes JEB! is a RINO, so is Christie, Rubio, and almost all standing on the stage.
Donald Trump scares the heck out of them, he took the pledge, they agreed to play fair and now we just need to wait and see what the next few voting primaries look like.
I do know one thing... by by JEB!
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2016 - 11:44am PT
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guyman posted John... basically he is a RINO, wants to get his bros old crew together, to carry on with all the stupid stuff his bro and dad did. You know, spend 5x more $$$$$ on the stuff that helps rich ass stockbrokers and other Wall Street types.
So you mean that he's a Republican in substance? Are you unclear on what RINO means or something?
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Are you unclear on what RINO means or something?
HDDJ... Please don't act stupid. I hope I do not treat you like your stupid.
He is the dictionary definition of what Republican In Name Only ... IS.
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dirtbag
climber
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Actually, what hddj excerpted from your post has been basic republican trickle down/supply-side economic policy since at least Reagan. I.e., quintessential republicanism.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2016 - 12:14pm PT
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guyman posted He is the dictionary definition of what Republican In Name Only ... IS.
But can you articulate what that is? Without the circular logic. Because I don't think it's clear what you are actually trying to say. It certainly isn't clear to me.
HDDJ... Please don't act stupid. I hope I do not treat you like your stupid.
you're*
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Thank you, Mr. President...
President Obama delivered a deeply personal and emotional appeal to the country to help curb gun violence on Tuesday at the White House. For Obama, who is often criticized for his overly clinical approach to heated issues, his tone -- sad and mad in relatively equal measure -- was remarkable. Toward the end of his remarks, remembering the first graders who were the victims of a mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, Obama even wept briefly -- a remarkable concession to emotion from this president. The speech was memorable one for reasons beyond Obama's emotion. I annotated it using Genius; sign up and join me. I'd love your thoughts on the address. It begins with Obama thanking Mark Barden, the father of one of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, who introduced him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/05/president-obamas-amazingly-emotional-speech-on-gun-control-annotated/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transcript-230pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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dirtbag
climber
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Next up: FEMA camps.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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The hoopla over this mystefies me. If the President has this authority, why does no one criticize him for failing to use it for six years? If this is such a big deal, he should have exercised that authority, at the very latest, after the Gabby Giffords shooting. Instead, after each shooting that the press and administration played up, all he did was castigate those who opposed his views, then sit on his hands.
The sycophantic press he receives disgraces the profession of journalism.
John
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dirtbag
climber
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He wasted time by making the mistake of trying to work with a right wing congress to enact legislation, which would have been far preferable.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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He wasted time by making the mistake of trying to work with a right wing congress to enact legislation, which would have been far preferable.
I know that's the standard reply of his supporters, but if he has this power constitutionally, then we aren't in an either/or situation. His speech seems to recognize that, because he says this action doesn't obviate the need for legislation. The grandstanding shines brightly; the substance less so.
john
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John M
climber
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He has the power. Its been abused. Dems don't want it abused. That is why he has been slow to use it. Thats a good thing in my opinion. First try to get it done through the legislature.
Even though I agree with what he is trying to accomplish, I'm not sure that I agree that he should have used this power for this. It bothers me.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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John E. , "grandstanding"??? Your cynicism has reached a new low.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Actually, what hddj excerpted from your post has been basic republican trickle down/supply-side economic policy since at least Reagan. I.e., quintessential republicanism.
Boy oh boy you sure read a lot into what I wrote.
Did Bill Clinton end this supply-side economic policy?
Did the shrub end this supply-side deal?
Has President Obama ended this supply-side stuff?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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The speech was 100% political posturing. He wants the Republicans to respond stupidly, and they are already obliging him.
There's really nothing controversial in there except for having fingerprint safeties on guns, and that's a "proposal," not in the order.
Of course there's more in the order than was in the speech and we'll see all of that dribble out over the next few daze. Expect a "No Fly List" rule - the equivalent of being found guilty of a crime you were never charged with. And word is they will be mining the Social Security database for people who "cannot handle their finances," are itinerant, live in certain areas and such things. Welcome to the brave new world.
And man, those crocodile tears. Give him an Oscar.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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That Californian republicans realize Cruz is far more likely (although still an underdog) to win the general election than Trump is?
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Trump being so extreme has made Cruz seem reasonable. Quite the accomplishment. Without Trump, Cruz is the mad, far-right candidate.
Oh well. I think the democrats have better odds against Cruz than they would against Rubio.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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And man, those crocodile tears. Give him an Oscar. Apparently, when you sign the anti-Obama pledge you leave your soul as a deposit.
CA? Not in play for the GOP.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Cruz and Rubio had better come up with some magic soon, or who would beat the Dems is a moot point.
They both have lost the far right to the Donald.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Apparently, when you sign the anti-Obama pledge you leave your soul as a deposit.
It would appear to be the case if you support him, too. The news conference was pure political theatre, and, as Kris said, the regulations were relatively (at least to me) non-controversial. Again, if this is such world-shattering news, why wait six years? Do your job, enact the regulations the law allows, and actually try working with your opposition, rather than villifying them.
John
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Norton
Social climber
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August West said
That Californian republicans realize Cruz is far more likely (although still an underdog) to win the general election than Trump is?
interesting comment, August
as the rest of the country's Republicans clearly seem to feel that actually picking who is to be their nominee has nothing to do with winning the general elections
they overwhelmingly choose Donald Trump, knowing that he has alienated just about
every demographic other than white males with what he says every day
political experience also appears to mean absolutely nothing to them
could it be that the old cliche of As California Goes So goes the Country - eventually?
regardless, both Trump and Cruz stand very little chance of getting to 270 Electoral Votes
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