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The Chief
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:57pm PT
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What ever Mtnyoung. Time to start the insulting game.... got it. You are truly a partisan puppet. Nothing more.
Btw: The elections are a year away.
Anything can happen....Anything can happen.
"Prime Mover" RUSH
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Lorenzo
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Portland Oregon
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:59pm PT
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course, what do the Israelis know about confronting terrorists ?
Well they have first hand knowledge of terrorism.
It is Israelis, by way of the Irgun and the Stern gang including Menachem Begin, who bombed the King David Hotel disguised as Arabs, and Israelis who Instigated the massacre of between 760 and 3,500 refugees at Sabra and Shatila.
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couchmaster
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:01pm PT
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....it seems we read different words.
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The Chief
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:03pm PT
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Of course this meant nothing right Lorenzo....
Couch... same same. Trust me.
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Lorenzo
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Portland Oregon
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:22pm PT
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of course this meant nothing right Lorenzo....
well chief, I don't know what point you are trying to make, but I can show pictures, too
Here's the King David masterminded by Menachem Begin.
91 deaths, mostly hotel employees and passers-by.
Shatila massacre, ordered by Ariel Sharon.
So yeah, the Israelis are experts in terrorism.
I guess that means nothing to you.
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JEleazarian
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Fresno CA
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:26pm PT
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Let's see,over 5 million people have been killed by us ,the USA,in Iraq and A-stan.
I take it you choose to believe that figure, wilbeer, but I wonder if you would care to share the statistical methods used to calculate it. I am aware of those statistical methods (no, they did not count bodies and say "Killed by U.S., killed by Saddam Hussein, killed by natural causes," etc.). Those were blatantly and hopelessly biased and wildly inaccurate. They make the Literary Digest poll in 1936, predicting that Alf Landon would trounce F.D.R., seem highly accurate by comparison.
The assertion that the USA killed 5 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq has been so thoroughly discredited that I'm rather surprised that you repeat it.
John
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Lorenzo
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Portland Oregon
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:28pm PT
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:05pm PT
Yeah, no enthusiasm from Maronite or other Christian factions had anything to do with settling scores, Lorenzo...
From Wikipedia:
The Phalanges, allies to the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF), were ordered by the IDF to clear out Sabra and Shatila from PLO fighters, as part of the IDF maneuvering into West Beirut. The IDF received reports of some of the Phalanges atrocities in Sabra and Shatila but failed to stop them.[8]
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Ariel Sharon, then Defense Minister, bore personal responsibility "for ignoring the danger of bloodshed and revenge", forcing him to resign.[21]
The massacre went on for 3 days. Pretty creative to portray the Israelis as innocent.
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RyanD
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:46pm PT
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scrubbing bubbles
Trad climber
More curlicues than a monkey's ass
Nov 20, 2015 - 09:33pm PT
oh for fuk's sake!!! ...1000 posts?
here's an idea--let Putin restore order to Syria, then ship the camel jockeys who are terrorizing Europe back to Syria.
get it??? is it that hard to understand?
you keep all of these wild-eyed bearded sandniggers right where they belong
...IN THE GODDAMN SAND
Jesus!
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The Chief
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:47pm PT
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well chief, I don't know what point you are trying to make,
Well Lorenzo, does "An Eye for and Eye" mean anything? Shall we compare the total number of Israeli victims of Arab terrorism compared to the the number of Arabs that were victims of Israeli terrorism?
And do post where I ever stated anything about Israel being, "innocent"? Please....
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RyanD
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:50pm PT
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What's your take on all this Jesus?
I mean the rascist BS and the ISIS and the crankloons?
Should I buy a bunch of canned food or what?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Nov 20, 2015 - 10:16pm PT
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Hay Jesus! Knowing what you know, is pork ok to eat these daze, or do your old man's taboos still apply to that yummy food?
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Lorenzo
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Portland Oregon
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Nov 20, 2015 - 10:42pm PT
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W
Well Lorenzo, does "An Eye for and Eye" mean anything? Shall we compare the total number of Israeli victims of Arab terrorism compared to the the number of Arabs that were victims of Israeli terrorism?
You probably shouldn't go there, Chief. If you want to make it some sort of biblical Justice thing, a lot more Israeli eyes are due.
Here's a handy chart compiled from UN figures just for children, which would be pretty hard to portray as combatants.
here's the figures for the 2014 conflict as compiled by the UN
A third were women and children under 15. The Israelis killed more children in one school bombing than all the Israeli casualties. Out of the 28 days on the chart, there were no Israeli casualties of any sort for half, yet Israelis killed children on every day.
You picked a pretty bad example to show eye for eye.
Eye for eye, indeed. Looks more like The Israelis are doing ethnic cleansing.
They will never have peace.
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Psilocyborg
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Nov 20, 2015 - 10:52pm PT
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power struggles.....its what drives us. The details beyond are just a straw man. Grasping at straw men. Same as it ever was?
I would rather surf a comet to the dark side of the moon, or paddle out at midnight in a storm to a cursed island. All the power struggles remind me of a vaudeville magician with a monkey as an assistant.
and lol at the charts and statistics
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The Chief
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Nov 20, 2015 - 10:55pm PT
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here's the figures for the 2014 conflict as compiled by the UN
Ah Lorenzo, I said Terror attacks.
Not the defense of their nation due to the Hamas lobbing countless amounts of assorted rockets into Israel day in and day out from locations such as schools and hospitals (basically hiding behind human shields) for well over 122 days or committing other acts of war on the Israeli people.
But who'd figure you would count that into the stats.
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Lorenzo
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Portland Oregon
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:03pm PT
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You are full of crap, chief, and a bit of a dunce.
The Israelis bombed a school. Not just any school, but a school run by the United Nation, and not in a combat area. The supposed rocked, which the UN says didn't occur, given locations blocks away by even the Israelis.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/03/us-appalled-disgraceful-israeli-shelling-gaza-un-school
1775 Palestinian civilians killed, three Israelis.
Eye for an eye. Eye for an eye. Eye for an eye....
Your words.
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The Chief
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:08pm PT
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Full of crap huh...
Of course I am.
I suppose you are now going to defend Hamas's behavior. Right Lorenzo.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:15pm PT
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You probably believed the WMD photos that got us into Iraq, huh chief? I remember thinking It was the worst photoshop job in history.
Turns out I was closer than Colin Powel and our intelligence.
Israel and Hamas are two scorpions in a bottle. They will go at each other until they both destruct. There is no hope there.
But there is no eye for eye, chief. All the power is with Israel. They are as much terrorists as Hamas and they will never gain peace.
Never.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:31pm PT
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Nice hardware, if it's real. No Israelis.Here are some of the children the Israelis killed.
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Lorenzo
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Portland Oregon
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:41pm PT
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Nice try, chief. Now look for the pictures of dead children.
You seem to think Hamas is the cause, they are just a natural part of the cycle of hate on all sides. The Shatila massacre Sharon took responsibility for and resigned over was in 1982. Hamas wasn't formed until 1987. In 1982 was also when Begin, the King David bomber, was elected premier. He refused to fire Sharon.
Israel sowed the seeds for its own misery and the misery of Palestine. They are the only ones who can stop it. As long as they keep Gaza a ghetto they is no hope for peace. They of all people should see that.
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