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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
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Shelf Road is one bolted 5.10 after another, spaced every ten feet.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
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Shelf Road is one bolted 5.10 after another, spaced every ten feet.
What's your point? Are we dissing sport climbing now?
... and Indian Creek has one crack permanently lined with chalk and chain anchors with biners, one after another, every ten feet.
Gear beta proudly displayed on Mountain Project for mass consumption by 'trad' climbers.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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Shelf Road is one bolted 5.10 after another, spaced every ten feet.
Sounds like a fun place to climb.
But not the same thing as retrobolting up a bunch of CLASSIC old time climbs.
Lets stay on topic... OK.
And Largo and friends bolted up some really nice sportclimbs at Malibux, those are fun climbs too.
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Sep 27, 2013 - 10:20am PT
Shelf Road is one bolted 5.10 after another, spaced every ten feet.
Yep "maybe" the first grid bolted crag. It's how Bob changed his name to Bolting Bob
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
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John Kelly is beating Ron in Wrongness, not an easy feat.
Smith and to some degree Cochiti Mesa were the first 'grid' bolted areas.
Shelf was one of the first limestone sport areas in the US.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
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johnkelley, that was my point, heroic photos aside. Patrick, no need to dis sport climbing, and I would agree with you about Indian Creek. There's only 10,000 other cracks just like them on all the other mesas in Utah. I'd rather see people spread out and use dark colored chalk. I don't think fixed anchors are a problem.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
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Kelly,
Since you are obsessed with cute names, can we call you 'smelly kelly'?
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
Sep 27, 2013 - 10:31am PT
Kelly,
Since you are obsessed with cute names, can we call you 'smelly kelly'?
I don't care but you should at least learn to spell it right you goofy mother f*#ker
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
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Notice the e before the y? I wouldn't want someone else to get my nickname for me
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trad nut
climber
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Sep 27, 2013 - 01:49pm PT
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I want to play!
Isn't john kelly that singer that made a video where he pissed on an underage girl and then did a song about being trapped in a closet... I didn't know he climbed!
And shouldn't "Bolting Bob" be referred to as "Mr Bolting Bob Tight Pants." That level of constriction on your "junk" cant be healthy or comfortable!
Finally, Ron, you have a little white stuff on your chin. You need to clean-up before you "respect" another Stonemaster.
Cheers. Now continue the flogging.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 27, 2013 - 02:36pm PT
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Smelly KellEy wrote: They were "maybe" the first areas that needed it. Might of had something to due with the thousands of bolts that showed up seemingly overnight? It's not that I "hate" you Bolting Bob it's that I'm interested in the motives behind it.
Can't you read???
The BLM in Shelf and SLV embraced and worked with climbers FROM THE BEGINNING.
You are a complete sac less drone...No doubt a sneaky-crawling night time bolt chopper who doesn't have the sac to confront the person who put the bolts in person.
You could have confronted me in person..you don't have the sac too.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 27, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
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Smelly KellEy wrote: Might of had something to due with the thousands of bolts that showed up seemingly overnight?
What strange drug induced world do you live in??
Back it with facts and tell me what routes that I grid bolted and just how did I put in thousands of bolts "seemingly overnight".
Smelly KellEy fits perfect. Your posts/facts smell like sh#t.
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Sep 27, 2013 - 03:07pm PT
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Beware the strawman! He's highly flammable and a little short of substance. A fookin lightweight, really.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Sep 27, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
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You could have confronted me in person..you don't have the sac too.
i have no doubt in your climbing abilities, trad record, and i doubt you would ever knowingly re-bolt a museum climb.
but your fixation of yourself as a fighter is tiring, limp wristed and pathetic at best.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 27, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
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Hawkeye wrote: but your fixation of yourself as a fighter is tiring, limp wristed and pathetic at best.
Another perception base on bullsh#t...I'm not asking John to fight...you have an issue with someone deal with it face to face and discuss it, that is men do.
Talk about limp-wristed...sorry I'm not PC enough for you.
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 27, 2013 - 03:19pm PT
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Actually Bob I'm kinda know for confronting a few bolters. BTW I never chopped any of your bolts either. Never chopped at night either. Where do you come up with this BS? I'm just curious about the motives behind the grid bolting? Why the change from hard ground up free climbing to top down grid bolting? Why are you so reluctant to talk about it?
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 27, 2013 - 03:24pm PT
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John...I don't grid bolt to start. I asked you a number of times to give facts/examples. You haven't, you just continue on with the bolting bob bullsh#t.
I still climb 5.12 trad, that is after a heart attack and having open heart surgery. I still do trad FA's.
You have deeper issues with bolts...it just not healthy.
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 27, 2013 - 03:26pm PT
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Want to fight? Fly up here and we can duke it out.
I'm referring to the grid bolting at Shelf Road and in the SLV
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Cracko
Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
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Sep 27, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
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Pure Theater !!! Carry on..........Please.
Cracko
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