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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 16, 2016 - 04:15pm PT
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It's in the best interest of the Democrats if Trump doesn't exit or get the boot at the RNC.
If he exits for whatever reason, the replacement will be greeted with all kinds of Republican 'phew!' enthusiasm. A candidate like Paul Ryan could step in and sweep against a low-approval candidate like Hillary.
Might sound a little conspiratorial, but I can't help but wonder if that strategy isn't being crafted in the smoke-filled back rooms of the GOP.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jun 16, 2016 - 04:26pm PT
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^^^^^^^ there ya go, right there.
Trump may have been fellating the Koch brothers from day one.
Trump's money addiction would be in perfect synch with the Kochs' desire to hire the services of such a talented whore.
Of course, the Koch brothers deny any connection to Trump, but what sort of man goes about town boasting about winning the affections of a sewer-rat hooker?
This is an unusual phrase. It's not taught in today's public schools:
You can't elide over his utter dipshittery.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) June 16, 2016
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jun 16, 2016 - 04:37pm PT
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There's been some who wonder if this clown really wants the job. Is he trying to lose? It could be argued he got into this to increase the value of his brand and, low and behold, the crazy base bought it. He's not really running a campaign of any kind, basically, he's just sending messages on Twitter and doing a creepy 1-hour standup routine in airport hangers.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 16, 2016 - 04:40pm PT
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"Is he trying to lose?"
See: 'Koch brothers fellating'
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Jun 16, 2016 - 04:52pm PT
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There's an interesting article in Slate with former Apprentice crew members discussing Trump. Read it and learn what our next President is like......
“He was always very open about describing women by their breast size. Any time I see people in the Trump organization say how nice he is, I want to throw up. He’s been a nasty person to women for a long time,” says one crew member. “My girlfriend at the time was a production assistant on the show and he made a comment about her, knowing that he was mic’d and that we’d all hear it. He said, ‘Who’s that hot little girl running around?’ For a second I was like, Cool, Donald Trump thinks my girlfriend is hot. But then I was like, Wait, an old man said something about my 28-year-old girlfriend. Take it easy, homeboy.”
“He would talk about the female contestants’ bodies a lot from the control room,” recalls one midlevel producer. “We shot in Trump Tower, the control room was on the seventh floor, and he walked in one day and was talking about a contestant, saying, ‘Her breasts were so much bigger at the casting. Maybe she had her period then.’ He knows he’s mic’d and that 30 people are hearing this, but he didn’t care. That’s kind of him. During the campaign, when he was talking about Megyn Kelly, I thought: He’s obsessed with menstruation.”
The article can be found here: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/apprentice_crew_members_on_their_old_boss_donald_trump.html
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 16, 2016 - 04:57pm PT
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my fingers are crossed he doesn't drop out right before the convention. that would be mean. I don't like mean.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 16, 2016 - 05:02pm PT
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What a dick! Hell, he's so much of a dick he's a veritable insult even to the likes of Nixon and Cheney.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jun 16, 2016 - 07:03pm PT
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The McCain-Feingold campaign reform law says that campaign loans can only be paid back within 20 days after an election, and only from funds associated with that specific election.
The law treats the primary, at the convention, as one election (the winner is the candidate), and the general election in November as a separate election.
So, if Trump want's his $40 million dollar loans repaid, he has to do it right after the convention. He can't be repaid with funds donated for use in the general election.
This is why Trump has accelerated his fund-raising, and has fully abandoned his earlier, magnanimous and maverick position of remaining independent, and not taking money.
That key element of his campaign platform has been conveniently discarded, in the manner that a used car salesman conveniently changes out new tires for worn ones as soon as the sales contract has been signed.
I'm not raising money for myself. I am raising money for the Party - Douchy Drumpfkopf
He has no intention of having those loans repaid - Corey "Neidermeyer" Lowandowski
From Day One, his campaign website has had a big, prominent DONATE button.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jun 16, 2016 - 07:06pm PT
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Amy Walter, of the Cook Political Report, shoots down the idea he'll be dumped...
Trump Will Be the Nominee. Period.
This election year has been rife with conspiracy theories. Most of them, of course, have been peddled by Donald Trump. The most recent - that Trump is somehow going to be denied the nomination in Cleveland - comes from establishment and inside-the-Beltway types who should know better.
In the wake of recent polling showing a “Trump slump” and record high disapproval ratings (he hit 70 percent unfavorable in the Washington Post/ABC News poll), the “establishment” Twitter-verse has exploded with the theories of how Trump will be dumped by his party before the RNC convention in July. I have heard the same version of this theory from otherwise rational, politically deft insiders on the left. I talked with a high-ranking Democrat the other night who joked, with a level of seriousness that surprised me, that Trump will be pulled from the ballot before the fall, leaving the GOP with a stronger candidate to face Hillary Clinton. Surely, goes the thinking of these theorists, GOP voters can’t look at these numbers and think that Trump can still win? Well, yes, actually, they do.
As someone who sometimes gets caught in the insulated allure of Twitter, it’s important for me and those of us who spend our days inside the campaign machine, to remember who and what “normal” voters are. Most voters don’t look at the RealClearPolitics polling averages. Nor do they spend their day digging through cross-tabs and the Electoral College map. More important, if we learned anything from this primary campaign season, it’s that a big chunk of the GOP base is voting against everything that the GOP leadership stands for. They didn’t accept the premise of the 2013 RNC Autopsy that “we must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform” – but actively and knowingly supported a candidate who argued that we should deport immigrants and build a wall to keep them out. They don’t like, trust, or believe what their leaders or the “MSM” has been peddling. Why would they listen to their entreaties now?
More important, as I have written many times before, an “Anti-Trump” campaign can’t succeed without a “Pro-Another Candidate” to replace him. The most obvious choices to oust Trump at the convention – Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz – have said they aren’t interested in putting up a fight. Leaders of the #NeverTrump movement have failed to produce a third-party option. You can’t have a coup without a replacement. Period.
Finally, more GOP infighting only helps Hillary Clinton. Instead of unifying the party and pivoting to a general election message, Trump has decided to keep picking fights with his GOP detractors and making the race a referendum on his own unfavorable traits instead of Hillary Clinton’s. That is clearly helping her. The latest RealClearPolitics average shows the former Secretary of State with a 6-point lead over Trump. And, more of this infighting and uncertainty will continue to help her.
To those GOPers still thinking/hoping that Trump will “get the message” and suddenly become a more focused and disciplined candidate, I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Here’s the deal, Trump is not going to change. Ever. This is the candidate who won the primaries. This is the candidate you are going to nominate in July. And, this is the candidate who you will have to decide to support or not in November. There’s simply no other option.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Jun 16, 2016 - 07:12pm PT
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[quote]Too late. Attila the Hun is voting for Hillary.
Whttp://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/24/charles-koch-says-he-could-possibly-support-hillary-clinton/?_r=0[/quote]
i figure that i know way more about the Koch bros than many of you. seeing as i worked for KOCH for a while because I had no other job as a new chemical engineer out of college.
so they might be totally about f*#king you and f*#king me, and f*#king the environment. but they do have their own brand of scruples. everybody does.
they have their own brand of morality and sense of right and wrong. BTW, do not underestimate the mofos, they support pbs. what does that mean? they probably do it to influence the articles that you and i watch.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Jun 16, 2016 - 08:10pm PT
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it is sad but true that trump is the republican party.
same for hillary though. yes i recognize her experience, but pleeeeease, dont be f*#king stupid enough to believe that she is looking out for your interests or mine.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 16, 2016 - 09:24pm PT
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The gop elite didn't realize they were slowly slitting their own wrists as part of the bargain in a sixty year campaign based on bigotry and hate. And by the time they did realize it was too late - the monster had taken on a life of it's own. Happened in Germany twice, in Italy, in Japan, China and now here - it's everything America is supposed to stand against, not embrace.
Only a matter of time before the MP murder happens here with a trump supporter screaming 'America First!!!' instead of 'Britain First!!!'...
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 16, 2016 - 10:50pm PT
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Just because the RNC nominates him, doesn't mean he has to accept...
Or that he can't bail before the convention even starts...
Alright. Taking off the tin hat. For now.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 16, 2016 - 11:05pm PT
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I think he's pretty caught up in his own game at this point - bailing without a way to save face or someone else to blame would be punishing to his ego over the long haul.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 16, 2016 - 11:18pm PT
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He's used to sending, bailing ain't in his vocabulary.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 16, 2016 - 11:21pm PT
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Au contraire - bailing (bankruptcy) as a business strategy is how he got here - he's a consummate and professional bailer - but has always had someone else to blame. Not so much in this case at this point.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jun 16, 2016 - 11:22pm PT
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He'll walk away and sue everybody.
It's what he does.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jun 17, 2016 - 06:49am PT
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