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TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Mar 11, 2011 - 08:47pm PT

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do —— The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order, p. 51.

(Huntington)

See Victor Davis Hanson, "Carnage and Culture" for further exposition.

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, CA

Mar 13, 2011 - 03:06pm PT

Sorry, Fatty, the world doesn't care about Jewish children getting knifed while their parents watch. Neither does the U.N.

Good news is, the village isn't taking it lightly....

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, CA

Mar 13, 2011 - 03:20pm PT

Mossad false flag......

Yeah, that makes sense...Everything is false flag when it doesn't jive with yer stupid agenda.

Lame!

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, CA

Mar 13, 2011 - 08:19pm PT

How does the murder of a Jewish settler family benefit the Palestinian cause?

Uh, they murdered a Jewish family who was on 'their land'. Are you really stupid, or do you just pretend to be?

philo

Trad climber

Somewhere halfway over the rainbow

Mar 14, 2011 - 02:09pm PT

He can not answer the question as it does not fit the paradigm of the "Narrative" he has bought, hook line and sinker.

FALSE FLAG.

Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber

Truckee , CA

Mar 14, 2011 - 03:27pm PT

we will build wherever families are killed.

No Jeff Elfont, "you" will not build any where.

The Israelis will, however, at their own peril.

You live in the USA and barely even know what the term "Haredim" means.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Mar 14, 2011 - 08:36pm PT

Every time I start to get tingle of sympathy for the paleos they go and pull something like this.

philo

Trad climber

Somewhere halfway over the rainbow

Mar 15, 2011 - 01:23am PT

Paleos? Is that supposed to be like Heebs?

Victim-hood as art form.

philo

Trad climber

Somewhere halfway over the rainbow

Mar 15, 2011 - 01:40am PT

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/a-responsible-government-would-calm-not-escalate-1.349046
ed 01:31 14.03.11Latest update 01:31 14.03.11

A responsible government would calm, not escalate
A single cell of murderers has come and changed the trend of Netanyahu and Barak's actions to a toughening of positions and the decision to build 500 new housing units in the settlements.

Haaretz Editorial

The despicable murder of five members of the Fogel family on Saturday is a crime against every human being. But the atrocity in Itamar is not only a criminal act. It was committed in a diplomatic and security context, and we have to examine its background and consequences. Not, heaven forbid, to justify what cannot be justified or grant absolution. Instead, we have to study the complex situation that makes Israel responsible for preventing an escalation that could result in many new victims.

A diplomatic stagnation marks relations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Both sides have contributed to this, as has the ineffectiveness of the U.S. administration under President Barack Obama. Two years after his administration and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government took over, there has been no progress on the formula that ostensibly everyone agrees on: the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel. The diplomatic vacuum is enabling extremist elements on both sides - terror organizations (and individuals acting alone ) on the one side and settlers ravenous for more territory and a price tag on the other - to take the initiative and dictate events instead of the leaders.

In recent weeks, under pressure from visitors from Washington, Berlin and other foreign capitals, Netanyahu seems to be signaling he intends to unveil a more moderate policy in about two months. Moreover, he and his partner, Defense Minister Ehud Barak, have explained that the moderation will not be a favor to the Palestinians, but rather what Israel needs. They have also promised to evacuate settlements built on privately owned land stolen from Palestinians. For a moment it appeared that the government, to develop a moderate image, was heading for a clash with the settlers.

Now, a single cell of murderers has come and changed the trend of Netanyahu and Barak's actions to a toughening of positions and the decision to build 500 new housing units in the settlements. This is a terrible decision that will neither placate the settlers nor prevent a revenge attack by the lawless among them. In addition, it is making things difficult for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, angering Obama and feeding the unrest in the territories in advance of tomorrow, a day of planned demonstrations.

A responsible government would act now to calm and not to escalate, to pursue a diplomatic solution and not a belligerent confrontation. But in Jerusalem we don't have a government like that.

FALSE FLAG

philo

Trad climber

Somewhere halfway over the rainbow

Mar 15, 2011 - 11:03am PT

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-congress-condemns-poland-s-decision-to-halt-property-restitution-1.349366

Published 15:56 15.03.11Latest update 15:56 15.03.11
Jewish Congress condemns Poland's decision to halt property restitution
Polish government suspends work on a bill of compensation payments for nationalized property, explaining they cannot finance the proceedings in the current economic climate.

By Haaretz Service
The head of the World Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Restitution Organization expressed Monday "shock and dismay" at the announcement that Poland decided to suspend work on legislation to provide compensation for property owners whose assets were confiscated during the Communist period, among them many Jewish Holocaust victims.

Ronald S. Lauder said in a statement "We are greatly disturbed by this turn of events as Polish officials have been publicly stating for many years - indeed too many years -that the property restitution and compensation issue would be addressed and legislation introduced in Parliament."

World Jewish Congress Ronald Lauder.

Photo by: AP

"By its announcement this week, Poland is telling many elderly pre-war landowners, including Holocaust survivors, that they have no foreseeable hope of even a small measure of justice for the assets that were seized from them," the WJC president added.

"Regrettably, the Polish government has said that for financial reasons they cannot move forward on legislation to compensate for confiscated property. For us, this is an issue of justice and not money," Lauder said.

"Most central and eastern European countries have adopted some type of law to provide for the restitution of or compensation for confiscated property. Poland stands out for its failure to do so," stated Lauder.

Last week, the Polish government suspended work on a bill of compensation payments for nationalized property, explaining that they could not finance the proceedings in the current economic climate.

WJC Secretary-General Michael Schneider called the Polish government's decision "disappointing and unfair" adding that "We must help old people, particularly Holocaust survivors, who in their twilight years need the means to cope with the problems of old age."

Big Fing WAAAH
The Israeli's adamantly refuse to grant the justice of restitution to the Palestinians disinfranchized by the Naqbah. But they expect the world to weep for them and give them everything they demand. Hypocrites.

Degaine

climber

Mar 15, 2011 - 12:00pm PT

philo,

Could you please explain to me how Jewish people in Poland asking for land taken from them during the Holocaust can be considered hypocrites because the secular Israeli government has not returned land to Palestinian refugees (or their descendants)?

dirtbag

climber

Mar 15, 2011 - 01:49pm PT

There is no clash.

philo

Trad climber

Somewhere halfway over the rainbow

Mar 15, 2011 - 02:07pm PT

Except between Fattrad and reality.

dirtbag

climber

Mar 15, 2011 - 03:11pm PT

Yes, there's that one.

couchmaster

climber

pdx

Mar 15, 2011 - 10:50pm PT

and aren't we still spelling it cRash these days?

Degaine

climber

Mar 16, 2011 - 04:47am PT

fattrad,

Could you please explain how you've come to the conclusion that Bahrain is the flash point given that protests in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Morocco and Algeria came first?

dirtbag

climber

Mar 16, 2011 - 04:55am PT

Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber

Truckee , CA

Mar 16, 2011 - 01:23pm PT

After all, nuclear stuff is bad, see the Japan thread.

You are right, Jeff Elfont.

Dismantle Dimona.

lostinshanghai

Social climber

someplace

Mar 16, 2011 - 07:54pm PT

Photo by https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/424/images/RumsfeldBookmark.pdf

I always wondered who was behind the HINI “swine flu” scare and all that Tamiflu ordered by our government and every country in the world.

But what gets me is that he was awarded the "Defender of the Constitution Award" at the 2011 Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C., on February 10, 2011.

Don’t you just love america.