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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 26, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
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MGuzzy
Makes sense. Wonder if he used his school account during the summer months?
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 26, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
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Just a thought..I know cragman wanted to see if Matt bought specific things at Rite-Aid. Glasses, First Aid stuff, other gear to help us get some direction.
What if we make a list of the things we think are relevant and then just go see what they cost? We know Matt is a 'simple' shopper, he would only buy 1 or 2 things at a time. We know what he spent there, so all we have to do is go there with a list of items and his credit card reciept and see what cost that much..its not 100% but if the glasses at ride cost 16.53 with tax, and we know he spent 16.53, then we may be able to say ok he bought these. Same for anything you guys think would be relevant.
I mean if he bought a candy bar and toothpaste its not going to help us anyway right?
lets just go look around and see what item costs what he spent. he is not the type to buy a bunch of little things, he is non-material, only buys essentials.
his house is a minimalist paradise. i mean the guy really has nothing but the basics. his kitchen was empty, he had salt and pepper in it - literally nothing else. his bathroom had 1 roll of TP. this is not just becasue he was traveling, this is how he always is. To save the environment, he doent even take a plastic or paper bag. My guess is he bought 1 thing that day. ~ Ron
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 26, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
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Ron,
I think many of us were wanting to know what Matt purchased there, but also the video from the purchase could have held clues as well (e.g. was he alone, what clothes was he wearing etc..).
Out of curiosity have you or Tiffany requested that MLPD issue any search warrants to help in finding Matt (e.g. search warrant for Rite Aid, Email, camp registry etc....)
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RM217
climber
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Aug 26, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
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I was looking at the summitpost.org link and searched his name in forums. Found a forum he responded to and then found another. Links below. Maybe you have already seen these? It does show that Matt posted 85 times (I think in forums only). I was able to find a couple more, but older ones, from 2010. I wonder if access can be gained to his account there...maybe in the "member area" it would show all the posts he made...and maybe there is a forum he posted on that would indicate where he was planning to go? Just a thought...??? I did do a forum search for Ritter/Banner. I didn't turn anything up.
Posted on June 28th
http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB3/post927240.html#p927240
Posted on July 8th
http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB3/palisades-conditions-t65093-30.html
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kenish
Gym climber
Orange County, CA
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Aug 26, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
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We know what he spent there, so all we have to do is go there with a list of items and his credit card reciept and see what cost that much..its not 100% but if the glasses at ride cost 16.53 with tax, and we know he spent 16.53, then we may be able to say ok he bought these. Same for anything you guys think would be relevant.
Suggested that a few days ago when his CC activity was posted. Sales tax in Mammoth Lakes is 8% so the $16.53 works backwards to an odd retail price ($15.30 in this case) He probably bought 2 or more items, and if some were non-taxable that makes it even harder to figure out.
The Chevron purchase after the first car repair is about 11 gallons and fits the previous fillups on the statement.
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KellyDoesntClimb
Social climber
Dunwoody, GA
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Aug 26, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
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Wait. The posts on the SP forum can't possibly be PT. He posted on 7/6/2013 at 0155AM? From whose computer or smartphone? What library is open at 2AM? And if it was ET, which is where *I* am and it could be correcting for, what library is open at 10 or 11PM? Not sure if it's 3 or 4 hours...
http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB3/palisades-conditions-t65093-30.html
and this, from http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB3/post927240.html#p927240: "I'd expect that you'll find mostly dry trails, and will be able to deal with any snow just by taking an ice axe and crampons and crossing snowfields early in the morning."
Ah, and *this* forum thinks I posted at 430, when it's *clearly* 730 where I am.
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Jeremy B.
climber
Northern California
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Aug 26, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
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Wait. The posts on the SP forum can't possibly be PT. He posted on 7/6/2013 at 0155AM? From whose computer or smartphone? What library is open at 2AM? And if it was ET, which is where *I* am and it could be correcting for, what library is open at 10 or 11PM? Not sure if it's 3 or 4 hours...
SummitPost, as far as I can tell displays UTC+1 times (8 hours ahead of Pacific Time) unless you are logged in, in which case it displays posts in your local time.
Edit: Matt's post on 7 July was at 5:55pm PDT, and his post on 28 Jun was at 10:27am PDT.
Edit 2: Sorry, the server is 8 hours ahead of PDT, not 7. I suspect someone else also made an error due to daylight saving, as the server appears 1 hour ahead of GMT.
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 26, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
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Kelly +10
Will update the timeline with your findings.
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Guest123
climber
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Aug 26, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
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I am not familiar with hotmail, but your screen shot shows outlook. I know they are both MS, but do they login through the same screen?
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 26, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
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NOTE FROM SUMMITPOST ADMIN: We have checked Matt's account to check PMs to see in any info might be found to aid in the search. Unfortunately no information of any kind was found. The correct last login date for Matt is July 16
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RM217
climber
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Aug 26, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
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@tdg119 Do you think SummitPost would allow you access to his member area. The "forum" posts do not show up under his profile, but may be in the member area. I did searches in certain forums and turned up those few (A few more...but way older). I searched for areas around Mammoth Lakes and also for various pcs of equipment. Under his name in the forum area, it shows that he made 85 posts, but they are not viewable to public, however, there must be more out there...just not sure what else to search for...
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 26, 2013 - 09:18pm PT
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I agree that it would be good to get access to Matt's SummitPost account.
But, if (rather than searching within SummitPost), you Google the words mattgreene and summitpost (and resist Google's suggestion to turn it into "Matt Greene"), you can see a bunch of posts by Matt from various SummitPost forums, though they're organized by "relevance" rather than chronologically. Many are short posts in the "climber's log" section. Some pages don't contain posts by Matt but rather pages of threads from a forum that might also contain posts by Matt that also come up separately in the search.
If you add 2013 to your search, you get some posts by Matt from this year, but you also get a lot of posts from earlier years on climber's logs and other discussions that have also received posts this year.
If to the basic Google search mattgreene summitpost you add Ritter, or Banner, or Lyell, or Agnew, or Minarets you get nothing.
ETA: Looks like mattyj's list of Matt's topics on Summitpost gets at much of the same info and is better organized...
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RM217
climber
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Aug 26, 2013 - 09:26pm PT
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@LA Hiker...did that also in all the major search engines. (using summitt post and mattgreene...no space between words). It returned all the climbing log posts that are available through his profile on Summit. His forum posts are not available on his profile. I did a pretty exhaustive search of the California forums, and also general forums...I didn't turn anything else up. But, if the 85 posts is accurate, there's a bunch more there. I found posts dating back to 2007, but nothing more recent than the first two I posted earlier. Wonder if he was on any other hiking blogs???
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Jilli
Trad climber
Livermore, California/ Dunedin NZ
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Aug 26, 2013 - 09:30pm PT
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***UPDATE regarding Mammoth Mountaineering Supply & Gear Exchange:
As you might have read above, a few of us on here have thought it would be good to run a thorough search at the gear exchange for possibility that Matt's gear was sold there in the past ~6weeks. It is *highly* unlikely, yes, BUT it is worth to check out the records and tick off that possibility (and no need to comment on how unlikely it is please- don't want to hog up the forum with that speculation).
I have talked to my bestie who works there off & on but since she is posted up in their Mammoth shops lately, she is unbable to do the search herself at this time. Instead, a guy named Greg will check it out (an active Taco reader/user) and report back about it in the next few days I hope. The Gear Exchange keeps very detailed records of this stuff so not too daunting of a task to search for the below items in question. CHeers to Greg for making that happen. (and btw, this is not just perusing the shelves- this is checking all the paperwork)
Once again, yes it is a long shot and doesn't make any sense for a thief to sell gear there- but stranger things have happened.
ANd in case you missed the above conversation about this- the possibly spoken of is that Matt's gear was stolen from:
a. Matt himself (which wold indicate foul play)
b. His campsite on the 16th/17th (which could also indicate foul play)
c. His campsite during the week after the 16th (since tent was up for unknown amount of time before being stashed in storage at campground AND he was not reported missing for an entire week. (WHICH WOULD INDICATE HE DID NOT TAKE THOSE ITEMS AFTER ALL- meaning, not a big day, rather a "rest day" or something else.
So as you can see, it would help to know answers about this gear.
Here's the most updated list:
-Mountain Hardwear South Col 70liter
-La Sportiva Nepal Extreme's - size 11.5/12 - yellow (purchased Spring 2013)
-Petzl Quark Ice Axe (one of his two), no leash, silver with a bit of orange
PIC: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2195321&tn=1060
-Black Diamond crampons - horizontal front points, Step in, black & yellow strap. Approx.10years old, quite used.
Jilli
P.S. - I have found some pretty sweet deals at the Exchange over the years and find the YELP reviews a bit ridiculous!! It's a great shop offering an amazing service in the Eastside. If you want new gear and great one-on-one service, stick to Wilson's :)
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 26, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
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Jilli +10
Thanks so much for getting in contact with the gear exchange! Yes you are right they have some great deals in there (it is like a wonderful treasure hunt in that store!)
Will update my document accordingly. Thanks again.
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Jilli
Trad climber
Livermore, California/ Dunedin NZ
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Aug 26, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
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Oh and here are the pics of what is being searched for, thanks to SplitPants:
(this was already posted above, just posting again)
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 26, 2013 - 09:38pm PT
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RM217 - I'm curious (and not used to searching SummitPost) -- which exact search on SummitPost led the search engine to say there were 85 posts? Does that maybe include the climber's log entries? I'm wondering if it's hits rather than posts, and if some are duplicates -- on Google one gets hits on a post as well as on a forum containing the post...
I do think that if Google doesn't come up with other SummitPost entries from 2013 besides the ones that have been found, they're probably not there. But I agree, it would be good to search other climber's forums.
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Jeremy B.
climber
Northern California
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Aug 26, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
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If Matt posted multiple times in a thread, that would help explain the difference in counts. Putting 'site:summitpost.org inurl:phpBB3 "by mattgreene"' into Google gives 61 hits, and only 37 if I include the year (2013).
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