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hamish f
Social climber
squamish
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See you on the lift and don't forget your bike.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Hoser, the article doesn't really say anything new, apart from Faulkner's appointment. It essentially reprints a press release from the proponents, and perhaps was done so as to maintain an appearance of momentum.
Now, the proponents are tying up loose ends, which include a management agreement with B.C. Parks.
The key line - the proponent knows that the park use permit/management agreement is much more than a "loose end", and also that the entire process is under review at a senior level with the province.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Oh this is awesome news, this is going to bring so much business & traffic into downtown Squamish! It will create jobs for generations to come & provide a sustainable industry for Squamish to grow around! I can't wait to go biking & snowboarding up there, it sure is going to be great to catch the gondola down after climbing Habrich! It's going to be great to have that road open to the public again too! Phew, what a relief, for a minute I thought that this protected land was actually going to be protected! That sure would have sucked. Now people will come from all over the world just to ride the sea to sky gondola & Squamish will finally get the recognition it deserves. Oh praise Jesus our prayers have been answered.
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Hoser
climber
vancouver
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Well you cant bring any of those on the Gondola....but maybe this is Ski Capilano's second chance :)
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Yeah - sign the darn petition, already.
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new world order-
climber
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Anders, shouldn't you be watching (quite possibly) the last hockey game of the season?
See you at the ribbon cutting ceremony.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Even I know that hockey games start with a face-off, not a ribbon cutting.
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hamish f
Social climber
squamish
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Well said.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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George Bush was a mountain biker, it doesn't mean he made good decisions...
... Mr. Faulkner, with ties to the climbing and conservation communities is well placed to reduce opposition from those communities. Personal relationships should not get in the way of a transparent delivery of development plans. He is being paid to move this project forward, not represent the interests of climbing and conservation.
Until the developers want to clearly share with the public the long tern plans for it, questions will be asked.
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hamish f
Social climber
squamish
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I'm not too sure he would be satisfied with anyone.
There will always be a small percentage of the population that is hard to please.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Hopefully the new guy does a better job answering questions than the other buddies. I emailed them over a month ago & haven't heard a peep back, based on my experience I would say that they are not even worth talking to if they are incapable of responding to questions that may cause them to think about their position & plans for "our" park. Regardless if the new guy climbs or bikes or whatever, he is being hired to do a job & we can only speculate as to what his job description entails. If he wants to keep his job, he will do whatever that may be. I think Todd brings a great point, I think he actually brings many great points.
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hamish f
Social climber
squamish
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If he wants to keep his job, he'll do whatever he asked to do? Ryan, with all due respect, you are describing most people at their jobs.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Sorry, I was stating the obvious. So did he write that article in the squeamish queef or did someone write it for him?
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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^^^^^^
Haha awesome reef lol! Despite all the debate & whatnot this thread is still cracking me up!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Bruce, you could as easily say it's time for the proponent to move out of an adversarial role - after all, they're the ones who want to take land from a well-established, heavily-used park, based on a severely flawed process that hasn't come close to complying with the government's own policy. They're the ones who want to disrupt the status quo. They're the ones that haven't thoroughly examined alternative locations. They claim that the process has been open and inclusive, which it hasn't. And so on. And they know their problems, now.
The press release in the Squamish Chief was clearly not much edited. It does get Faulkner's relationship with the proponent out in the open. (When did it start? He didn't say anything about it in Britannia on April 19th, where he strongly supported the proposal and process. Or in his letter to the Vancouver Sun, published last week - the one where he claimed that the gondola wouldn't run through Stawamus Chief Provincial Park.)
But for a really funny one, see http://www.ropeways.net/rn/index.php?i=0&j=1&news=3056 (Sent by Todd E.) Maybe the Doppelmayr lift company is behind in the proposal? (A Swiss gondola manufacturer was apparently behind the 2004 proposal.) We heard that the proponent attempted to sell the project to three large tourism operators (names removed), without success. Perhaps they thought it too risky an investment.
All fit subjects for a thorough, independent, transparent examination of the proposal. Maybe at the end of it, all questions would be answered, it would have solid support from all concerned communities, and it would go ahead. But let's ask the questions and get the answers, first.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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So you're unskeptical when it comes to what the proponent says, but the opposite with me? I don't get it. Being critical is fine, but try to be consistent.
But maybe Barnum was right, even when it comes to climbers.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Bruce, perhaps we should get together and chat privately this weekend, in Squamish - I'm the token Vancouverite. I need to be there Saturday or Sunday, for FOSC business. We could have coffee, and discuss things more effectively than here, including some things that shouldn't be on-line. But you have to promise not to beat me up.
Plus I could deliver your button.
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