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John Moosie

climber

Beautiful California

Sep 26, 2011 - 11:51pm PT

fatten the stash of the Democrat Party.

Awesome man.. wooooo whooooo!!!!!

Bob D'A

Trad climber

Taos, NM

Sep 26, 2011 - 11:57pm PT

Donald...you still didn't disapprove the numbers...just speculating.

Reagan and Bush crushed us...plain and simple.

John Moosie

climber

Beautiful California

Sep 26, 2011 - 11:58pm PT

Bob, according to Donald, Reagan and Bush aren't conservatives. He is the only true conservative.

All Hail the great conservative Donald Thompson

Bob D'A

Trad climber

Taos, NM

Sep 27, 2011 - 12:01am PT

Lois wrote: Bob, Well, I don't know that such is how all GOPs necessarily feel. I think it would be more accurate to say that GOPs often feels the government is doing "too much" versus that it should do nothing at all.

Lois..are you against clean air, water, science, women rights, civil rights, gay unions, national healthcare, education, national parks, open space, union rights, collective bargaining, interstate highways, rebuilding infrastructure?

Bob D'A

Trad climber

Taos, NM

Sep 27, 2011 - 12:02am PT

Donald wrote: When a business earns it they call it "greed"

Like Halliburton??

Bob D'A

Trad climber

Taos, NM

Sep 27, 2011 - 12:10am PT

Lois wrote: Bob,

I favor some of what you outlined and do not favor others. Also while one might favor a given goal, it does not necessarily mean one might favor a particular methodology.

And that is OK...it what makes us democrats and republicans...there used to be a thing called compromise.

Bob D'A

Trad climber

Taos, NM

Sep 27, 2011 - 12:17am PT

Lois...yes Lois so how did the minority elected officials control the ball?

apogee

climber

Sep 27, 2011 - 12:30am PT

Hey, DT- whaddya think about Cain's Florida romp?

Is the Hermanator your Pizza Man?

apogee

climber

Sep 27, 2011 - 12:33am PT

apogee

climber

Sep 27, 2011 - 12:39am PT

So if Cain is your (current) pizza man, who's driving shotgun in his delivery rig?

Newt?

apogee

climber

Sep 27, 2011 - 12:46am PT

Yeah, but remember, DT, in campaign politics, there's the candidate you wanna date, then there's the candidate you'd marry. Perry is the dangerous badboy who carries guns and drives fast....Romney is the safe one, the vanilla one, the one who would make a good father.

Except for that whole Mormon thang.

Cain just might fill that 'safe' role...if he can resist becoming the puppet of the RR, he'd gain a point in my book.

Karl Baba

Trad climber

Yosemite, Ca

Sep 27, 2011 - 12:56am PT

So Lois, about that alleged no questions health insurance. What would stop somebody knowing they needed a triple-bypass from signing up and having all of it paid for except for $5000, say $10,000 max out of pocket? You must have misunderstood.

Don Writes

Liberalism doesn't work. Its days are over.

You say a lot without backing it up. The Wall Street journal did a study if somebody invested 10,000 in the market during just democratic administrations or just GOP administrations and the Dem invested money did FAR better, even when you disregard the worst of the GOP losses.

apogee

climber

Sep 27, 2011 - 01:04am PT

"It is tons more nuanced and complicated than your assessment."

Probably true, but maybe not.

Look at virtually every POTUS candidate who got the nomination, and who they were up against. (I can't think of most of them off the top of my head, either.) Last go round, the GOP picked McCain...not their first or favorite pick, but they did so in the interest of broad appeal. You could say the same thing about Shrub, too.

apogee

climber

Sep 27, 2011 - 01:25am PT

DT, that's what I'm sayin'.

Parts of the electorate get ideologic hard-ons for one candidate or the other prior to the nomination, which is all good, since it riles up the voters and keeps them interested.

But it all comes down to electability, and that's where the 'badboys' get left behind. Ultimately, either party would be happy with a candidate that is less ideologically pure if it put their party in power.

So who's that gonna be? Cain is a possibility- his rhetoric has been less hyperbolic, and more pragmatic- he has a long ways to go to get people familiar and comfortable with him.

Romney is familiar to people, and 'safe' enough, but a Mormon POTUS ain't gonna happen. That's simple, pragmatic reality.

Perry seems to be melting down before our eyes. Bachmann & Santorum are ideologically pure, but their primary value is in getting the electorate riled up. Paul....yeah, right.

If Newt was disciplined, he'd kick all of their arses (and Obama's, too).

The dark horse may still show itself. Giuliani is one dimensional and won't fly. Christie is the next great hope, but he'll probably do a 'Thompson'.

apogee

climber

Sep 27, 2011 - 01:30am PT

Well, for starters, he left his wife while she was dealing with cancer.

And that's one of the small skeletons.

More to the point, the man just isn't disciplined enough for such a campaign. He does far better as a pundit, spraying ideologic talking points, kinda like Palin.

John Moosie

climber

Beautiful California

Sep 27, 2011 - 01:32am PT

If Newt was disciplined, he'd kick all of their arses (and Obama's, too).

Not after his multiple affairs and how the Republicans crucified Clinton. Twice he got divorced after having affairs, then married the woman he was having affairs with. As though that makes it better.

Cain's health is definitely in play.

John Moosie

climber

Beautiful California

Sep 27, 2011 - 01:41am PT

Yeah, John, but is he running for president or minister? Lots of these guys can't keep it in their pants. Seems to be a very ubiquitous phenomenon.

My point is that the republicans will look like hypocrites if Newt is their candidate.

All it would take to destroy him is to keep playing commercials of him crucifying Clinton, then explain that Newt was having an affair during that time period.

Field day for dems.

apogee

climber

Sep 27, 2011 - 01:46am PT

"Not after his multiple affairs and how the Republicans crucified Clinton. Twice he got divorced after having affairs, then married the woman he was having affairs with."

Prime examples of poor discipline.

If not for those many skeletons, Newt would kill them all. His mastery of speechifying and ideology makes the rest of them look like high school debate clubsters. Lucky for the Dems that he's walking kryptonite to the GOP.

John Moosie

climber

Beautiful California

Sep 27, 2011 - 01:47am PT

Impeached for lying under oath. Yeah sure. But he wouldn't have ended up lying if he wasn't being crucified for having an affair. No crucifixion. No lie.