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BrentA
Gym climber
Roca Rojo
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Jul 17, 2011 - 07:17pm PT
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Been waiting for the days when climbing came with cheerleaders...
wait no longer!
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Rudder
Trad climber
Long Beach, CA
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Jul 17, 2011 - 07:30pm PT
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Agree with alot of what Pete wrote, agree with what Tarz says should have been added, and then there are the recondite issues...
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Rudder
Trad climber
Long Beach, CA
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Jul 17, 2011 - 09:16pm PT
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 17, 2011 - 09:55pm PT
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...people from the era of the FA have generally moved on...
Well, I'd say the threads here call bullshit on that one. I'd also say the boys deserve a long overdue objective opinion and I'd say they are about to get one...
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#1SuperMama
Social climber
Oakdale, Ca
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Jul 17, 2011 - 10:50pm PT
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Thank you Rudder for your diagram!
It's ethical and legit.
As some of you have said and as I responded a week ago to an email from Pete -
The story is for Ammon and Kait to share. They lived it, and 29 years ago the FA's made it.
So, only those 4 who have successfully climbed WoS have a right to report on it.
And you know what - sometimes cheerleaders are needed in this world. And, honestly, I can't believe I just wrote that! Only those who know me will understand my sentiments. ; )
I would love to write more tidbits for you all from my two turtles, but feel less than safe doing so now. Talk about the paparazzi! Who'd have thunk that the climbing world has their share too?
Ciao from the #1Mama
It's been real!
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Jul 17, 2011 - 11:02pm PT
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Great Rudder! Funny, ironic, and sobering and rather definitive. I would have put some emphasis on the religious differences and that our very own Richard put out a SDA oriented book on the ascent and lectured to tens of thousands soon after. There is also the follow up chart to do of Richard's very uncomfortable, difficult life afterwards.
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#1SuperMama
Social climber
Oakdale, Ca
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Jul 18, 2011 - 12:33am PT
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The pirate and his lady are down!
It's been fun!
Thanks for letting a mama post! I've had a blast!
Now it's time to hear from the real characters.
At long last -
Over and out,
#1SuperMama
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jul 18, 2011 - 12:38am PT
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And THANK YOU!!! # 1 SUPER MAMA!!!
This has been most interesting and I greatly appreciate your posting.
History! This is now all------very interesting-----history!
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dogtown
Trad climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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Jul 18, 2011 - 01:17am PT
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Funny how things work out, Eh Pete? Years ago they were a couple of liars. Great Climbers Now, Eh. What a bunch of Prime Donna Mother f*#kers this site is full of.
Mark and Richard rule!! Because they have Balls. Period .
Dogtown.
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Rudder
Trad climber
Long Beach, CA
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Jul 18, 2011 - 02:23am PT
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There is also the follow up chart to do of Richard's very uncomfortable, difficult life afterwards.
Hi Peter! I've been on the internet since, well?, me and Al Gore invented it. lol I've seen threads change from discussions about technical, mechanical, ethical, spiritual, or other issues... into discussions of the thread participants personal lives. I've never thought it was a good thing. And, in this case, I'm way more interested in "climbing." What has been at issue since fixed protection was first implemented is IF it should be used at all, WHAT routes merit its use, and to WHAT extent its use is acceptable. It has been a mixed blessing (some would say a pandora's box) since day one. Interestingly, alot of young climbers I talk with don't even see the controversy. But, if you can put up a bolt, you can attach a channel to that bolt, and an elevator to that channel. It's a slippery slope from the get go.
Even climbers that are not interested in tradition, ethics, and style probably don't want all the climbing walls to end up like this:
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Jul 18, 2011 - 01:07pm PT
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Congrats Ammon. Saw your smiling summit shots on FB. Can't wait for the full report. You're beyond the real deal. Keep sending brutha.
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
California
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Jul 18, 2011 - 03:16pm PT
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Prod
Trad climber
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Jul 18, 2011 - 03:20pm PT
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SWEET!!!!!!!!
Awesome Pic!
Cheers,
Prod.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 18, 2011 - 03:21pm PT
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^^^^
LoL!!!
Important not to take any of this stuff too seriously. Even if it can kill you.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom
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Jul 18, 2011 - 03:23pm PT
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"Powerful Spiritual Odyssey" defined at last.
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Slakkey
Big Wall climber
From Back to Big Wall Baby
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Jul 18, 2011 - 03:39pm PT
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Congrats,
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Jul 18, 2011 - 03:42pm PT
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Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha!!! GREAT PHOTO!!!
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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Jul 18, 2011 - 04:09pm PT
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That may be one of the most hilarious photos on ST
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sac
Trad climber
Sun Coast B.C.
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Jul 18, 2011 - 04:18pm PT
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aaaaaaand there ya' have it!!
Thanks for the "summation",ECP, intended, or knot.
A.
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
California
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Jul 18, 2011 - 05:23pm PT
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"Preliminary reports now suggest Smith and Jensen told the truth about everything, including the 15 or so “micro-enhancements” they made to avoid drilling rivets."
WRONG!!!
Pete, thanks for stepping on my toes on this one. Maybe you should stick with what you know... not assume.
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