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Gary
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Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Dec 29, 2015 - 12:25pm PT
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I feel he has a very credible record over the years.
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MikeMc
Social climber
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Dec 29, 2015 - 03:12pm PT
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Quick and hopefully easy question from a guy who loathes political discussion for the most part.
I need a reputable, non biased (left or right leaning) source for info on our current presidential candidates. I want a one stop site that actually lists what their platforms are, without any political spin. Does such a thing exist, or is a unicorn? I honestly don't know of any such creature, but I do know that every site I have so far visited, turns out to be basically a propaganda site.
So politically minded ST people, where can a non political guy go to find info to make an informed choice.
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MikeMc
Social climber
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Dec 29, 2015 - 03:25pm PT
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Thanks. Def better than Politico
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Dec 29, 2015 - 05:25pm PT
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what do you think he isn't paying attention to?
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Norton
Social climber
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Dec 29, 2015 - 05:37pm PT
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another 14 year old checks in
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Dec 29, 2015 - 05:50pm PT
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here's another
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/
From it we learn that the department of defense and the food and drug administration are on Trump's list of top contributors.
Your tax dollars at work.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2015 - 06:14am PT
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Hermit: So you actually think that ISIL is an existential threat to the United States? It's hard to know exactly what you're trying to convey when you communicate solely via political cartoons.
News Updates:
A grand jury decided not to indict the police officers who shot 12 year old Tamir Rice. He was peacefully playing with a toy gun when someone called the police reporting it but also stating that he believed it was a toy. That information was never relayed to police and they rolled up on the child and immediately shot him. If you haven't seen the video (click the link) it's pretty sickening.
A guy went into a convenience store and began harassing the Sikh clerk working there. When asked to leave he smashed a beer bottle on the clerk's head.
In case you are one of the few people who knew he was running, George Pataki suspended his presidential campaign today via web video. Presumably, this is Jim Gilmore's big chance to finally pick up some steam.
The US spying on Israel also scooped up communications from US congresspeople. (paywall)
Bill Cosby will (finally) be charged related to a 2004 sexual assault.
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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Dec 30, 2015 - 08:00am PT
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2015 - 08:02am PT
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Is that copied from somewhere or did you come up with that? A great smile starter for the day.
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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Dec 30, 2015 - 08:03am PT
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One of those couldn't help myself had to write it kind of things.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Dec 30, 2015 - 08:24am PT
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Bushman,
That's pretty funny.
I liked this cartoon:
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2015 - 09:26am PT
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Well done, Bushman!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2015 - 10:20am PT
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It was confirmed by the WSJ that Netanyahu's speech before Congress was designed to be a big "f*#k you" to Obama.
Mr. Boehner (R., Ohio) and Mr. McConnell (R., Ky.) knew secrecy was key. If word leaked out, they believed the White House would pressure Mr. Netanyahu to decline. To ensure the invitation would come as a surprise, the leaders decided to tell only their closest aides.
“We knew this would be a poke in the eye,” a person close to the Republican leaders said of the invitation.
The immediate concern was whether Mr. Netanyahu would agree to accept the invitation. Mr. Netanyahu’s relationship with Mr. Obama was already deeply troubled. Initially, the two Republicans weren’t sure the prime minister would be eager to make that situation even worse by entering into a direct political fight with the president in Congress.
When Mr. Boehner called Israeli Ambassador Ron Dermer on Jan. 9, the ambassador said he liked the idea and would sound out the prime minister, according to a person familiar with the call.
From the beginning, Mr. Boehner wasn’t entirely comfortable with what was a clear breach of protocol. Typically, only the White House would extend such an invitation in consultations with Congress. He and Mr. McConnell did not tell the White House about their discussions at any point during the planning, congressional officials said.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 30, 2015 - 10:35am PT
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HDDJ...said It was confirmed by the WSJ that Netanyahu's speech before Congress was designed to be a big "f*#k you" to Obama.
What you need the WSJ to let you know that?
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 30, 2015 - 10:37am PT
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Of course not, guyman. But it's pretty noteworthy when Murdoch's tool becomes the voice of truth that everyone else knew was the case.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Dec 30, 2015 - 10:47am PT
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Of course not, guyman. But it's pretty noteworthy when Murdoch's tool becomes the voice of truth that everyone else knew was the case.
If you read the Wall Street Journal, you know it is no one's tool, and certainly not Murdoch's. It's editorial stance was always far to the right (or, in today's Republican party, seemingly, moderately centrist), but its news is among the most objective anywhere.
John
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2015 - 10:52am PT
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Before Murdoch took over that was generally the case. "Most objective anywhere" may not be fully accurate but it had a solid wall between the reporting and the editorial page. Part of editorial bias is choosing where to put your reporters and how loud to trumpet your reporting and I do not know how consistent the WSJ's current practice is with pre-Murdoch. Here's a great (if clumsy) example of how those kinds of biases work out behind the scenes:
I have watched in recent days as Mr. Schroeder has emerged as a spokesman for a billionaire with a penchant for politics who secretly purchased a Las Vegas newspaper and is already moving to gut it. I have learned with horror that my boss shoveled a story into my newspaper – a terrible, plagiarized piece of garbage about the court system – and then stuck his own fake byline on it. I admit I never saw the piece until recently, but when I did, I knew it had Mr. Schroeder’s fingerprints all over it. Yet when enterprising reporters asked my boss about it, he claimed to know nothing or told them he had no comment. Yesterday, they blew the lid off this idiocy completely, proving that Mr. Schroeder lied, that he submitted a plagiarized story, bypassed what editing exists and basically used the pages of my newspaper, secretly, to further the political agenda of his master out in Las Vegas. In sum, the owner of my paper is guilty of journalistic misconduct of epic proportions.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Dec 30, 2015 - 11:00am PT
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HDDJ,
As a Journal reader for over 40 years, I see no change in the news other than format. For example, the "third from the right" column still exists daily, but it's not just one column, nor is it always third from the right. And the news summary isn't divided between "What's News" and "Who's News," but rather between business news and general news. Murdoch was smart enough to know who buys the Journal and why, and hasn't changed it the way we feared.
Even the content of the Opinion section is largely unchanged. I wasn't kidding when I described it as "moderately centrist," compared to how I would have described it in 1973, namely "way to the right." Sad to say, that isn't because it moderated its editorial policy, but because the Republican Party's self-styled conservatives are so far out there.
John
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