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jstan
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SUAP does not even realize how much we learn about him when he expresses absolute amazement at someone not following a "party line."
Something long sought may have been realized. A meat robot.
I wish I had archived the link but a day or two ago I read/watched Thad Allen the Cost Guard situation commander for the Horizon Oil spill. He was there in the White House when W. called "Brownie" in after his superdome mess. Allen said it was a very painful moment.
At that time W praised the effort saying "Great job Brownie."
Allen had very interesting ideas as to how resources have to be mobilized in the face of natural calamities. Ideas I though might be of use for dealing with all sorts of national calamities.
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corniss chopper
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breaking the speed of gravity
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New answers come out after the 2nd round of questioning Osama's neighbors.
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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If the mission had crashed and burned would people be asking the same question? No, he'd be getting the Jimmy Carter treatment.
exactly. DEFSEC recommended a precision bomb strike. obama made the decision and accepted responsibility. the well trained military executed near flawlessly.
all this crap about about an unarmed guy is just that. i dont recall any of those poor souls killed on 9-11 threatening Al Queda with guns.
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Bob D'A
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Taos, NM
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Fat wrote: Bush made his share of mistakes, but had a higher success rate than Obama.
Yes you are so right, the crash of the world economy, the lowest job gain of any modern president, two wars, the biggest separation of wealth of any modern president, a trillion dollars pissed away on the invasion of a sovereign country and a trillion dollars of revenue given to the upper two-percent.
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WBraun
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Al-Qaida on Friday confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden
So ...?
Who said? There's no name? Just Al-Qaida said .....
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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You expected otherwise from Fatty?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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"OH, HE WAS UNARMED".
Oh, that's right, he was.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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the entire government reports and how the press reports thing has been an interesting thing to watch and explains many of the inconsistancies.
sunday night obama gives his address. at that time those were the only official released statements on the incident, other than perhaps some white house staff whispering behind scenes to reporters.
the press then in an effort to boost their market share fills in behind those words what is ogoing on. as part of that effort they call in their "experts" who are also trying to get their name on there and they spout their knowledge.
the next day, despite little more news coming out between sunday night and monday morning, the news all act like they know exactly WTF happened. thats their job. they are not going to repeat exactly what was said so they fill in the blanks. their experts fill in the blanks.
the GUV guys realize they have an opportunity so some of them talk out their ass about a 40 minute fire fight which was in all liklihood over in a few minutes, becasue they want to capitalize on the opportunity.
someone with some intelligence knows that they need to debrief the SEAL team and pick out those facts that will not jeopordize operational security in the futre. that takes time. but in the interim all manner of reports are hitting the streets so by the time we read stories on tuesday, maybe 10% of any report was actually based upon something factual and the rest was supporistion, news filler and drama added to captivate the viewers because no doubt this has been captivating.
this was like the most exciting action movie in real life, with the intrigue, drama and death. not to mention the good guys winning. so by wednesday there is talk of hollywood movies, books etc.
karl, this is how there has been so many differnet stories.
if the GUV had shut up after obama's speach and said that we are not telling you anything right now because it cannot be verified, then there would have been an uproar with even bigger conspiracy theories. why wont the government tell us anything???? they must be hiding something?! i can hear it now and you karl would have been singing that tune.
that is why there have been so many different accounts up to now.
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the Fet
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Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Is this saying the Obama supporters are sheeple, or the people who think he's socialist are sheeple?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Bush: C-
No additional big terrorists attacks after 9/11, screwed up pretty much everything else
Obama: B+
Not cleaning up Bush's budget deficit, lagging economy, and wars quick enough
Both do what they think is right. Both get tons of money and support from special interest at the expense of the American public.
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the Fet
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Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Did you hear about the new drink called the Bin Laden?
Two shots followed with a splash of water. Mmmm!
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the Fet
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Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Bin Laden should have read the fine print about the 72 virgins...
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Q: “What color were Osama’s eyes?” A: “Blue. One blew this way, one blew that way.”
“BREAKING: Osama bin Laden to run against Hitler for mayor of hell.”
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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http://www.voanews.com/english/news/asia/south/UN-investigators-Call-for-More-Facts-on-Bin-Laden-Death--121390609.html
Independent investigators at the United Nations called Friday for the United States to provide more details on the death of Osama bin Laden.
The two U.N. investigators who published a joint statement on Friday said that in exceptional cases force can be used in "operations against terrorists."
But Christof Heyns, the special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary, or arbitrary executions, and Martin Scheinin, the rapporteur on protecting human rights while countering terrorism, said terrorists should normally be dealt with by arrest and trial.
Whether or not U.S. forces met international human rights standards when they killed Osama bin Laden, they said, is dependent on the specific facts. And those facts, they said, need to be brought out into the open.
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nature
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Railay, Thailand
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I place my faith in one virgin who is 72.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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i agree piss on the UN, i just found it kind if interesting. when terrorists took down the twin towers all bets were off.
yeah fatty, his trial should be in NYC.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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I'm thinking the Bogeyman died a loooooooooooooooong time ago.
We kept him "alive" because he is our CIA asset bogeyman to be used for nefarious needs whenever we wanted to use him. Hey, even on ice he won't last forever. Someone had to kill him and get the credit eventually, and to end the myth, bring an end to the lie. And now he is buried at sea. Gee, how convenient.
Just think about how the story of Tillman changed, it was a massive lie. We now know he was killed in "friendly fire" from a long range, and then he also had bullet holes in his head from very close range. Tillman was silenced. Think about how the story of Jessica Lynche changed, it was a massive lie to bring about a "feel good" story. She didn't fight back, the other men did. Those other men told the truth were also killed off one by one after coming back to silence them. She then came out with the truth to keep from being the next to be silenced.
The story of the killing of OBL has changed sooooo much in just a few days no one knows the "official" story, nor can they keep it straight. That is how it goes with lies. You get in so deep you can't keep it all straight and you have to make up more lies to cover the lies you just told.
Moral of the story: don't lie. Tell the truth. Do the right thing and moral thing always. Don't lie us into War. Don't pull psyops on the American people and the World.
November 2001: 'Bin Laden in poor health, to live for only two more years'
May 2, 2011 by legitgov
http://www.legitgov.org/November-2001-Bin-Laden-poor-health-live-only-two-more-years
CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July
French report claims terrorist leader stayed in Dubai hospital
Anthony Sampson
The Guardian, Thursday 1 November 2001 03.17 GMT
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/01/afghanistan.terrorism
Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
Wednesday, December 26, 2001
Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
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dirtbag
climber
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It's all a vast conspiracy, with shady characters, Bible codes, and aliens.
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healyje
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Portland, Oregon
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Pizz on the UN and the world court. Our ancestors formed this country to get rid of those concepts.
No, they didn't form this country or come here to get rid of those concepts.
And most of the original colonists were fundamentalist religious fanatics and pariahs who were escaping persecution, not justice. Hell, they had more in common with OBL holed-up in a cave than with you or me.
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the Fet
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Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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And most of the original colonists were fundamentalist religious fanatics and pariahs who were escaping persecution, not justice. Hell, they had more in common with OBL holed-up in a cave than with you or me.
That's really weird and wrong.
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