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Karl Baba

Trad climber

Yosemite, Ca

Sep 25, 2011 - 10:18pm PT

Skip wrote

Go and f*#k yourselves.

If you don't want help. If you think I am lying then fine.

Go and f*#k yourselves.

What a dysfunctional bunch of nut jobs.

Come on buddy. Throughout this whole thing in the past day or two I haven't called you a name personally, and didn't call you a liar, I just clarified our difference in communications by posting the literal facts of them. I thanked you and continue to acknowledge your good worksl.

It seems your discomfort with seeing your own posts and their contradictions is making you lash out. Why do that to yourself when the only person you are fooling is yourself and Lois.

Which is why I invite every to return to discussing fact based reasoning that covers solutions to the political hell we're in. Calling each other names doesn't sway anyone. Ken made a fine post like that and I'd like to see you answer those points raised instead of just claiming liberal spew talking points without analysis when his post is a perfect example of the opposite.

Peace

Karl

apogee

climber

Sep 25, 2011 - 10:22pm PT

Heh.

Karl Baba

Trad climber

Yosemite, Ca

Sep 25, 2011 - 10:27pm PT

Bluering wrote

Sweet, so you're cool with putting US troops on the southern border? Awesome!!!

Why use troops when we could beef up the border patrol and reduce the size of the military? Ever hear of Posse Comitatus? Real conservatives often don't want big government intruding on people domestically wtih troops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

"The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits members of the Army from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

The statute prohibits Army and Air Force personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Navy and Marine Corps are prohibited by a Department of Defense directive, not by the Act itself.[1][2] The Coast Guard, under the Department of Homeland Security, is exempt from the Act."

Now the real story is there are a lot of Republican Business guys who really want to use that cheap illegal labor so while some conservatives are demonizing illegals to shore up the mass vote, the real power refuses to nip the core of this whole thing by requiring business to establish the right to work in their staff and punishing offenders

peace

Karl

See, facts...Debate.

apogee

climber

Sep 25, 2011 - 10:37pm PT

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!!

It's always MARSHA!

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, CA

Sep 25, 2011 - 10:42pm PT

Uh, you're the one saying they'd be better served on the US border. Are you changing your story to suit your narrative?

Sure sounds like it.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Sep 25, 2011 - 10:43pm PT

Skip, old boy, you remind me of Woody.

Not even close!

apogee

climber

Sep 25, 2011 - 10:44pm PT

^^^^
Truth.

Edit: bluering, you have a habit of embarassing yourself by namedropping or posting like you and xxx were good buds. coz called you on it about Bachar, and now TGT says you don't know jack about Woody. Some people would refer to such individuals as a 'putz'.

Karl Baba

Trad climber

Yosemite, Ca

Sep 25, 2011 - 10:55pm PT

Bluering, You're putting words in my mouth. I don't think illegal immigrants are truly "Invading" I'm saying we don't need to spend as much on our military as almost the rest of the world combined at the price of funding social security and medicare. Why the priorities?

Skip writes

You are nothing but a dick.

You don't have a f*#king clue.

Really, Karl. You need to learn that people who have neither the intelligence nor the ethics to get simple health insurance before they climb ... aren't people who can lecture others about their greed when it comes to taking care of your own personal medical care.

YOU are the greediest SOB I have seen in quite some time.

YOU are the PERFECT EXAMPLE of what is wrong with Obamacare.

I had insurance Skip, it's just that not every place takes it and the approval process hadn't quit hit the computers yet. I eventually found the right docs and I even donated images to their office.

Now didn't you say you racked up 100s of thousands of uninsured medical bills once? Good thing you had money. Pot.Kettle...

WBraun

climber

Sep 25, 2011 - 11:21pm PT

Don't be so mean Skip.

Karl is a wonderful person.

All of us have character flaws.

All of us

If we always just focused and held those flaws in our hearts we'd be toast too soon ....

Bob D'A

Trad climber

Taos, NM

Sep 25, 2011 - 11:33pm PT

Karl...why do feel the need to redeem yourself or justify your actions to Skip?

Why?

Skip is a liar and fraud.

Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber

I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!

Sep 25, 2011 - 11:38pm PT

cage fight

5 bucks a ticket

mail to dr sprock

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Sep 26, 2011 - 12:06am PT

Well, we've just seen a demonstration of Repub ethical discussion:

Karl mentions that we don't secure our southern Borders.

Blue says, AHA, so you do support placing troops there!

Karl points out it is probably illegal, that there are legal probably equally effective alternatives, and philosophical reasons not to use the military.

Whereupon Blue accuses Karl of flip-flopping on a position that he never advocated.

Remember that, independents, when you hear Repubs make that charge, and the dem states that they never held the original position. Remember.

Comrade Karl is above that.

Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber

I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!

Sep 26, 2011 - 12:11am PT

bluey can send,

even when hammered,

in fact, he climbs better when hammered

Karl Baba

Trad climber

Yosemite, Ca

Sep 26, 2011 - 12:27am PT

Riley wrote

Karl is the man!
I still marvel at his wanting to continue up EL Cap with an arm making a sudden and unusual 90 degree turn and a chopped rope.

I did continue up and finish El Cap with a ruptured Achilles tendon a few years go, probably because I didn't know it was that jacked.

But I don't remember wanting to continue up with a broken arm, (which to be fair looked distorted but not 90 degrees) and the rope was still 1/3 intact.

Which makes you a rapid cat-lickin' lying pile of liberal dog crap Riley you tape-wad you!!!

:-)

corniss chopper

climber

breaking the speed of gravity

Sep 26, 2011 - 12:51am PT

Marsha Ann - perhaps you've forgotten that in the political arena of ideas
a picture is worth a 1000 words. Images making fun of Barry sway more opinions than clever words will ever do.

There are many more sheep out there ready to be swayed. And already enough of the herd has caught that hint of ineptitude in the breeze from the White House and are running away. Even sheep have a survival instinct of sorts.

Welcome to ST. Texicans are always welcome.

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