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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 25, 2011 - 01:52pm PT
The level of vitriolic rhetoric is just unprecedented on this forum.

I am just appalled at the viciousness of the attacks.

My heart breaks every time I read a personal insult.

My, my, my, it makes me just want to go and feed my bunnies.

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 25, 2011 - 01:54pm PT
I just don't understand this anger towards us conservatives.

We have said nothing to deserve this despicable treatment.

We present our viewpoints with delicate and precise logic, and all we get is ridicule.

I am just sick about this.

I just don't know how to handle it anymore.

I want to cry.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:01pm PT
If there is one thing, however, which really gets them to frothing and foaming at the mouth, it is a conservative female.

Lois, you are in that place again, where you start with the broad stroke. Just who is "them"? Am I one of "them"? I know and like plenty of conservative women. Most of my family is filled with conservative women. I am the token liberal in my family. You can't really judge liberal men based on the few on this forum who are willing to converse with you.

...

I don't know all of the background of what passed between Karl and Skip, but I do know that Karl looked for these emails Skip says he sent, and the only ones he could find reference a surgeon Skip offered to try to get Karl a referral to. Karl was having trouble finding a surgeon that would take his insurance. Skip didn't know if the surgeon would take the insurance and by that time, Karl had decided to go stay with his parents and get surgery from someone who had worked on him in the past. Plus it turned out that the surgeon Skip recommended wasn't even available at the time. At the end of the email Skip offered if there was any other way he could help, to let him know. But Karl didn't remember anything about Skip offering to pay.

I could imagine that if Skip explained about his trust, that Karl would say don't bother, because he would figure something out, but I don't kow if this is what happened.

In Karl's defense. He was in a whole lot of pain, and having to scramble to get things done. In a few days he probably got hundreds of emails, all while trying to deal with a severely broken arm. Pain pills and clear thinking don't always go together.

If Skip really did offer to try to get his trust to pay, then I wouldn't mind seeing those emails.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:04pm PT
John,


Well based on what you have put forth, it makes absolutely no sense for us to engage in discussion. I don't agree with any of those assessments which you have offered but you are certainly entitled to your opinion. For my part, I am only interested in having debates with people who are not overtly hostile and genuinely wish to look at the various issues. If you perceive me in the light you have outlined, then, of course, you WILL be hostile. You would be unable to meet my criteria for having non-hostile interaction as a requisite for discussion.

Your attitude, here-to-fore, makes a whole lot more sense, given what you have stated in your last post. If such is truly what you believe, I will not attempt to change your mind. It is obvious that you are entrenched in that viewpoint and your perceptions are not likely to be altered. In fact, you will predictably persist in those perceptions of me regardless of anything I say or do. Accordingly, as you wish, thus it will be BUT then, I trust you will also understand if I elect not to any answer of your various posts ever directed at me.

While I will hold that I am not the person described in your a*#essment, neither am I going tolerate any abuse from you. As I told you previously, I do not "do" abuse. Once I sense that such is an individual's main agenda, I simply ignore them and do not address any of their posts. Such encounters simply become too overtly hostile for my tastes.

I do wish to thank you for sharing your perceptions, thus clearing up this matter. It certainly does explain a whole lot of that which here-to-fore made no sense to me. Continued interaction would be pointless and would likely generate nothing but additional hostility. There would be no realistic prospect of us ever achieving any meeting of the minds. In fact, discussion would foster both of us to invest time and energy into patently negative pursuits. Doing so would certainly not represent a positive use of our respective life energies. If it is all the same to you, then, regarding future discussions between us, I shall simply pass.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:08pm PT
but Norton man.. I will miss you!..

Please don't go, I love you so..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-l5FyA3pgo

..

Hey Lolli, I am looking at going to the Caribbean this winter. I will check out Heron Island. Thanks for the heads up. Sweeeet!
apogee

climber
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:14pm PT
Lois.

The ultimate text generator.
apogee

climber
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:18pm PT
Positively precious!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:19pm PT
Apogee,


By contrast you DO discuss issues and you do so quite intelligently BUT you get entirely too emotional and then quickly descend into name calling and hurling insults. That tendency does makes you rather less appealing as well, in terms of online discussion. In short, you get entirely too hostile so I am becoming less and less interested in discussing anything with you. If you could maintain a civil tongue in your head and also be less overtly hostile, then I would not mind discussing issues with you. Such would not appear to be the case. Less and less, I want to bother to answer any of your posts directed at me. It always gets to the same place wherein you hurl insults and invectives, attacking my character or intellect. Who needs that?
apogee

climber
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:21pm PT
Pontiferous prattle!
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:26pm PT
pragmatic pessimism
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:27pm PT
In a segment of an April 2003 interview with the Associated Press, Republican Rick Santorum said that consenting adults do NOT have a constitutional right to privacy.


Thus when one googles "santorum":

"the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex".


Priceless, and appalling.

This is quite typical of the left's ruthless personal attacks on us constitutional conservatives.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:29pm PT
I just wish that you would stop with the broad strokes Lois. karl was trying to point out earlier that both you and Skip also often do not take the high road. It is not a one way street.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:30pm PT
John,


They intensely dislike conservatives and that mostly means conservative men who they normally encounter in these settings. If there is one thing, however, which really gets them to frothing and foaming at the mouth, it is a conservative female. They go absolutely rabid when they run across one of them. I am not sure what it is about being both a conservative and also a female, but they certainly go over the deep end on that count. They rachet up the vitriol big time when dealing with conservative women. It is as if they become so incensed that they take leave of all normal discourse and perspectives engaging in ranting and raving reminiscent of erupting volcanos. The very presence of a conservative female within their view sight pushes their buttons on some deep and profound level.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:32pm PT
You are in line behind Norton Locker. But I imagine he will be awhile. haha..



They intensely dislike conservatives and that mostly means conservative men who they normally encounter in these settings. If there is one thing, however, which really gets them to frothing and foaming at the mouth, it is a conservative female. They go absolutely rabid when they run across one of them. I am not sure what it is about being both a conservative and also a female, but they certainly go over the deep end on that count. They rachet up the vitriol big time when dealing with conservative women. It is as if they become so incensed that they take leave of all normal discourse and perspectives engaging in ranting and raving reminiscent of erupting volcanos. The very presence of a conservative female within their view sight pushes their buttons on some deep and profound level.

Classic man.. classic Lois.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:35pm PT
So in what are you optimistic about Obama?

that he will lose? Is that where your hopes lie? What kind of hope is that?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
Locker, you are a disruptive and abrasive presence on this thread.

Please keep your degenerative trash talk coming.

Thank you.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:38pm PT
Norton, have you been possessed by the LEB demon?
apogee

climber
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:40pm PT
Props to your penile prominence, Locker!
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:41pm PT
Props to your penile prominence, Locker!

Viagra will help with that.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 25, 2011 - 02:42pm PT
So what terrible things have occurred under Obama?

What horrible things did you husband predict that came true?

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