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WBraun

climber
Oct 14, 2013 - 09:21pm PT
rick sumner -- "i'm quite capable of kicking these guys asses on my own."

Kicking asses is easy.

We have a whole coral full of em here.

We just fed them 7 bales of hay.

But to present good intelligence is something quite different .....

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 14, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
What is it with Ron and his desire to compare penises every chance he gets?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 14, 2013 - 09:26pm PT
Talk of HOT air.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 14, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
Yes, my all retards.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 14, 2013 - 10:22pm PT
Yes, all my retards

Irony is futile.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 14, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
To tell you the truth Ed, i didn't do much more than glance at the Cook paper. I don't trust much of anything purported to substantiate CAGW, especially the b.s. idea of a consensus on solely anthro causes. You, my friend should be looking a little at the astrophysicists papers. Things are turning around, the sixth straight severe Euopean winter start, hundreds dead from cold in S.A., hundreds of thousands of livestock frozen in S.A. and now South Dakota, the historically long mid to upper latitude winter of 2013, Antartic ice mass increasing, the Arctic ice in recovery. Hell , what will it take for you to see the light- the Thames and San Francisco Bay frozen solid? Give the Sun and it's myriad of known and unknown amplifiers a little credit, after all our efforts are a little feeble compared to it's natural variability, no?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 15, 2013 - 12:33am PT
riley i'm old and my eyes are fukt. where is the lower left praytell?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 15, 2013 - 01:52am PT
Just tuned in again after chores.

My god Wyna, we bow at your feet. You are without a doubt the hottest climber , physician, and now climate warrior to ever grace the planet.Where can we give proper thanks to your resplendent presence here.

At one time there was such a thing as a hippocratic oath. How can such a superior being as yourself stoop to the level of treating common mortals? Sketch used an inappropriate word towards Ed, but to you it fits to the tee-TURD.

Ed, .9c might well be out of the range of typical yearly or decadal global temp variability , but in a 150 year period coming out of the pronounced dip of the LIA it is unremarkable. On a 4.5 billion year old Earth 30 years is perhaps way little of an interval to call "Climate" rather than short term trends. For a real idea of climate trends why don't we consider the whole Holocene from deglaciation,to Younger Dryas, to Holocene optimum, to roman warming, to the Dark ages, to the medieval Warm period, to the little ice age, and finally to the recent modest warming. I believe the other 50%, other than setting volcanism at zero, was either reduced climate sensitivity to co2 doubling or solar variability from maximum activity to greatly reduced. Don't quote me, just from thinking out loud from memory.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 15, 2013 - 10:17am PT
Look in the mirror Wyna. Pull yourself together. Try first to do no harm.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 15, 2013 - 10:28am PT
hahahaaa... the hubris is strong in this one... first using his 3rd grade math and science skills and blogshit to argue science with those who have spent a good deal of their lives studying it... then a feeble attempt to remind the charitable Dr. Wyna of the Hippocratic Oath.

What a fuking idiot that Sumner guy is.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 15, 2013 - 10:46am PT
Although our ST denialists lack the reading and numerical skills to understand the Cook et al. paper, not everyone is so impaired -- more than 100,000 downloads so far.

Below is their wrapup, which speaks directly to some claims often made on this forum (emphasis added).

5. Conclusion

The public perception of a scientific consensus on AGW is a necessary element in public support for climate policy (Ding et al 2011). However, there is a significant gap between public perception and reality, with 57% of the US public either disagreeing or unaware that scientists overwhelmingly agree that the earth is warming due to human activity (Pew 2012).

Contributing to this 'consensus gap' are campaigns designed to confuse the public about the level of agreement among climate scientists. In 1991, Western Fuels Association conducted a $510 000 campaign whose primary goal was to 'reposition global warming as theory (not fact)'. A key strategy involved constructing the impression of active scientific debate using dissenting scientists as spokesmen (Oreskes 2010). The situation is exacerbated by media treatment of the climate issue, where the normative practice of providing opposing sides with equal attention has allowed a vocal minority to have their views amplified (Boykoff and Boykoff 2004). While there are indications that the situation has improved in the UK and USA prestige press (Boykoff 2007), the UK tabloid press showed no indication of improvement from 2000 to 2006 (Boykoff and Mansfield 2008).

The narrative presented by some dissenters is that the scientific consensus is '...on the point of collapse' (Oddie 2012) while '...the number of scientific "heretics" is growing with each passing year' (Allègre et al 2012). A systematic, comprehensive review of the literature provides quantitative evidence countering this assertion. The number of papers rejecting AGW is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 15, 2013 - 11:29am PT

fuh king Whitecoats1111!!!666
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Oct 15, 2013 - 11:31am PT
Wrong, Anderson. The planet continues to warm as CO2 rises.

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 15, 2013 - 11:46am PT
Cant for the life of me see why you guys deny reality.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 15, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
The McCright & Dunlap papers that FM has been citing are important works in the field, they've been tracking down this story from many different angles for a long time. Their next paper IMO will show something else that is interesting and new, about the way Americans have become politically polarized on this issue.
raymond phule

climber
Oct 15, 2013 - 12:14pm PT

Recently, 31,000 climate scientists have signed the Petition Project.
(my emphasis)

sure...

You could at least sometimes check your sources if you don't want to look like a fool all the time.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 15, 2013 - 12:18pm PT
Chuff, politics has nothing to do with understanding science you fuking idiot.

Ron, you would be funny if your desperate stupidity wasn't so sad.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 15, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
uh cheef...might want to check Webster's (it's a dictionary) on the definition of 'polarization'...oh that's right...never mind....

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 15, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
Fort, sorry... I missed that. I've been trying to get the indirect inversion of my non-linear models to converge and working on the yard... er, I mean, I've been hosting a love-in with the DNC and Obama. Now I know why all those white conservatives are intimidated by Obama... dude's hung like those wild horses Rong is always fantasizing about. Even Nancy was impressed.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 15, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
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