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ahad aham
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fats with luck you will get huckabee
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Palin/Fattrad 2012
PLEASE
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Feb 13, 2011 - 11:37am PT
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Question is, how many were his cousins?
Questioning from experience eh? Bet you kids have a few extra chromosomes.
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Feb 22, 2011 - 02:50pm PT
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An interesting connection between the dictators of Libya and Venezuela.
How does a South American dictator get a soccer stadium named after him in
Libya?
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Feb 23, 2011 - 04:55pm PT
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Fatty
Really sorry to pick on you.
Arnaud de Borchgrave is a propagandist/disinformation specialist. He once was a writer for the Washington Times run by Sun Myung Moon.
During a sermon, Rev. Moon asked any Jews present to raise their hands. When they did, he told them to repent for having killed Jesus and went on to explain that it was as an indemnity for this that 6 million Jews died during the Holocaust.
Funny you would agree with the analysis from Borchgrave or lack of Intel. Could be that you are not old enough to know the players.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Feb 24, 2011 - 01:14am PT
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Yeah, I told him exactly that about 700 posts ago. I'm, pretty sure forty-one in Roman numerals is XLI.
I also suggested, since these Clash of Civilizations threads did stack up from "one" to "forty-one," that he start forty-two. But I think he wants to get into the thousands of posts or something like that.
Still one of my favorite threads on Supertopo. It makes for a quick and easy way to read many diverse points of view on these subjects.
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healyje
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Portland, Oregon
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Feb 24, 2011 - 08:02am PT
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The condition of Palestinian statelessness is a symptom of both Iran's hegemonic ambitions and Arab rejection.
Wow, it takes some real linguistic, journalistic, and revisionist chutzpah to even attempt to shift the blame for Palestinian statelessness from Israel to Iran and Arab states. And in this case literally from a babe's mouth. He only approaches a valid point if your chosen solution is that some Arab country carve them out a state in lieu of the one they had in Palestine.
But I suppose the logic is that it worked for one wandering tribe lost in diaspora, why not this one? Not quite sure how attempting to end a Jewish diaspora by creating a Palestinian one balances the books, but I suppose it's all a matter of perspective. And hell, his logic is impeccable - if I throw you out of your house and the neighbors who put you up don't let you permanently move into their house then they are the bad guys and not me. Got it - next (and please, don't quote folks who are still in diapers).
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Feb 24, 2011 - 11:59am PT
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February 24, 2011 12:00 A.M.
Nations United Against Israel
The U.N. responds to multiple crises in Arab and Muslim countries just as you’d expect.
Egypt, Bahrain, and Yemen are in turmoil. In Libya, Col. Moammar Gaddafi is using mercenaries to slaughter peaceful protestors. Hezbollah is staging a slow-motion coup in Lebanon. Iran’s rulers are executing dissidents daily, developing nuclear weapons, and sending warships through Suez. The response of the United Nations to these many threats to global peace and security? Condemn Israel! Is there anything else the U.N. does as often or as well?
Here’s how it went down this time: At the urging of Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas, temporary Security Council member Lebanon — a nation, as noted, increasingly ruled by Hezbollah, the Iranian-funded terrorist group that in 1983 murdered 241 American servicemen in Beirut — sponsored a resolution condemning Israel for constructing “illegal settlements.”
In other words, the issue that the U.N. considers most critical in the world at this hinge moment in history is that Israelis have been building homes on land the Palestinians want — and might be able to have if they were prepared to negotiate a peace treaty with Israelis.
On Thursday, 110 members of Congress sent a letter to the Obama administration asking that it veto this latest attempt to delegitimize Israel, a democratic ally that has taken serious steps “to bring peace to the region.” Those steps included a ten-month moratorium on new housing in the West Bank, which Israelis hoped would bring Palestinians back to the negotiating table. But why should Palestinians negotiate if they can get the U.N. to force Israel to make concessions in exchange for nothing?
In the end and to its credit, the Obama administration did veto the resolution. But Ambassador Susan Rice did not even attempt to suggest how hypocritical, counterproductive, and just plain deranged it is for the U.N. to ignore the crimes being committed by Islamist terrorists and Arab despots while demanding that Israelis surrender territory — taken in a defensive war — to those who remain committed to their extermination.
Instead, Rice meekly conceded that the U.S. agrees “about the folly and illegitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity,” adding that the resolution was nevertheless “unwise.”
A more honest and courageous U.S. ambassador to the U.N. — John Bolton, Jeane Kirkpatrick, and Daniel Patrick Moynihan spring to mind — would have stated clearly that this resolution is a shameful attempt to deflect attention from real crises while enhancing Abbas’s position within the Arab and Muslim worlds. He can take America’s money and spit in America’s eye? What a guy!
Perhaps Ambassador Rice would benefit from spending more time on these issues and less, as my FDD colleague Claudia Rosett has reported, lecturing Americans on “Why America Needs the United Nations.” Since when did the job description of an American ambassador to the U.N. including marketing the U.N. to the taxpayers who subsidize the U.N.?
But I digress. The more important point is this: The U.N.’s leadership and most of its members are not remotely interested in securing peace anywhere. And there is no Palestinian leader who will or even can make peace with Israel so long as the Muslim Brotherhood, the Arab League, the Organization of the Islamic Conference, and similar groups are calling the shots — in many instances literally.
Hamas, Hezbollah, and the theocratic rulers of Iran have been candid: Creation of a Palestinian state is, at best, a secondary goal. Their primary objective is the defeat and destruction of the world’s only Jewish state. No serious person can still believe the core issue is housing in the West Bank, also known as Judea and Samaria, territories that have never been part of a Palestinian state — because there has never been a Palestinian state — territories occupied by Jordan from 1949 until 1967, when Jordan, Egypt, and other Arab nations launched a conventional war intended to wipe Israel off the map.
Islamists cannot accept the existence of a nation led by infidels in a part of the world targeted for religious cleansing, the imposition of sharia, and the establishment of a modern caliphate — one that is to be oil-rich, nuclear-armed, and dedicated to diminishing American power globally and permanently.
Were Arab and Muslim nations willing to tolerate Israel’s existence — not love Israelis, just tolerate them — negotiating borders would be a piece of cake. In the absence of such tolerance, it would be a mistake for Israel to surrender another square inch of soil — as its earlier withdrawals from southern Lebanon (where Hezbollah has installed thousand of missiles under the noses of U.N. “peacekeepers”) and Gaza (from which thousands of missiles have been launched at Israeli villages) have demonstrated to all but the delusional (a substantial percentage of the international foreign-policy community).
Israel also turned over the Sinai to Egypt in return for a peace treaty signed by Egyptian president Anwar Sadat. His assassination at the hands of a Muslim Brotherhood splinter group soon followed. Three decades later, that peace treaty may be scrapped by whichever government comes to power in Egypt in the days ahead. That does not imply that another war with Egypt is imminent or even inevitable. It does imply that Israel cannot depend for its survival on pieces of paper signed by dictators. How often do free peoples need to be taught that lesson?
— Clifford D. May, a former New York Times foreign correspondent, is president of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a policy institute focusing on terrorism and Islamism.
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Feb 24, 2011 - 12:06pm PT
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Clifford D. May is a "Conservative" hack.
Come on Booky, you can do better than that. Can't ya?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Feb 24, 2011 - 01:38pm PT
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http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/02/2011224141158174266.html
The PA should dissolve itself in a similar manner by announcing that the responsibilities delegated to it by Israel are being handed back to the occupying power, which must fulfill its duties under the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949.
This would not be a surrender. Rather, it would be a recognition of reality and an act of resistance on the part of Palestinians who would collectively refuse to continue to assist the occupier in occupying them. By removing the fig leaf of "self-governance" masking and protecting from scrutiny Israel's colonial and military tyranny, the end of the PA would expose Israeli apartheid for all the world to see.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Feb 24, 2011 - 02:23pm PT
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Why do so many terrorists keep personal a journal, kinda girly if you ask me.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Feb 24, 2011 - 02:35pm PT
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Dear Diary...
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