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JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 9, 2015 - 11:00am PT
Not to to boldly mention auto deaths have been on a steady decline annually.

Firearm homicides have fallen sharply from their peak in 1993 as well.

Firearm homicides since 2009 remain at lower levels (Source: FBI):

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
Murder Victims
by Weapon, 2009–2013

Weapons..........................2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Total .........................13,752 13,164 12,795 12,888 12,253
Total firearms: ................9,199 8,874 8,653 8,897 8,454
Handguns........................6,501 6,115 6,251 6,404 5,782
Rifles............................351 367 332 298 285
Shotguns..........................423 366 362 310 308
Other guns ........................96 93 97 116 123
Firearms, type not stated.......1,828 1,933 1,611 1,769 1,956
Knives or cutting instruments...1,836 1,732 1,716 1,604 1,490
Blunt objects (clubs, hammers,....623 549 502 522 428
etc.)
Personal weapons (hands, fists,...817 769 751 707 687
feet, pushed, etc.)
Poison..............................7 11 5 13 11
Explosives..........................2 4 6 8 2
Fire...............................98 78 76 87 94
Narcotics..........................52 45 33 38 53
Drowning............................8 10 15 14 4
Strangulation.....................122 122 88 90 85
Asphyxiation.......................84 98 92 106 95
Other weapons or not stated.......904 872 858 802 850

I'm having trouble getting this to line up, so I apologize for any difficulty in reading these. Interestingly, explosives seem to be the least frequent cause of homocide in the years in question. These obviously don't include the Oklahoma City bombing or, e.g., the World Trade Center and Pentagon suicide flights.

John
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Dec 9, 2015 - 11:45am PT
nice bit of satire:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/index.php/2015/11/27/mississippi-man-sticks-it-to-big-government-and-gun-grabbers-shoots-waitress/
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 9, 2015 - 12:07pm PT
patrick compton

Trad climber
van

Dec 9, 2015 - 10:54am PT
(raises hand) True. in the world of the Chief

So says the Hypocrite that just purchased an UNREGISTERED "Handgun" because he lives in a, here it comes, "... sketchy area of town.".


Priceless.


PS: "What's in your world, compton?"
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Dec 9, 2015 - 01:07pm PT
I live the world of white privilege.

I already stated that there is little difference between how I bought a gun and buying one on the street.

and I've said it is silly that I can own a gun. legally, without any authority knowing that I do.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 9, 2015 - 01:21pm PT
I live the world of white privilege.

I already stated that there is little difference between how I bought a gun and buying one on the street.

and I've said it is silly that I can own a gun. legally, without any authority knowing that I do.

I'm confused. You purchased a firearm 'legally' (I'm assuming) and you think it's foolish for you to own one? Then you regret that there is no governmental bureaucracy wasting yet more money and time having paperwork that you own it?

Keep in mind our same government dumps plane loads of real weapons and explosives into war-torn areas of the globe to support 'rebels'. But them having the knowledge that you own a handgun helps who?

Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 9, 2015 - 02:22pm PT
im guilty! I'm a warrior for the babies

Pretty much ends the discussion on motive for the Colorado planned parenthood shootings.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 9, 2015 - 02:55pm PT
Oh my God... what a Fear Mongering Islamaphobic leader this dood was.

During the 1980 hostage crisis, then-President Jimmy Carter issued a series of executive orders to tighten the screws on the government of Iran – among them were banning Iranians from entering the United States, FrontPageMag first reported.

Here are Carter’s comments upon making the action.

"The Secretary of Treasury and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly."

Can you only imagine the outcry from the Liberal Brigade in this nation today if this was done now?

Did I say Liberal? Holeeee Sheeeet. The doood that mandated this was/is a ... COMPASSIONATE LIBERAL!

Priceless.
monolith

climber
state of being
Dec 9, 2015 - 03:12pm PT
Iranian citizens, Chiefy, as part of sanctions against a state for the hostage crisis.

Not at all like Trump wanting to stop all Muslims from any country from entering the US.

Do you get that, Chiefy?
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 9, 2015 - 03:18pm PT
And the difference is... Mono?


BTW, how many Americans were beheaded/killed during the Hostage Crises? How many Iranian Terrorists carried out any attacks on US soil during that period?


You're an Idiot Mono. But figures that you would find a logical excuse for one of your Liberal heroes to do then what should be done today.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 9, 2015 - 03:21pm PT
And your projectile vomiting complete bullshet outta your mouth and nose again, Mono.

Priceless.



Oh yeah...


Carter ordered the immediate deportation of all Iranian Students During Hostage Crisis.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 9, 2015 - 03:34pm PT
im guilty! I'm a warrior for the babies
Pretty much ends the discussion on motive for the Colorado planned parenthood shootings.

Good point Lorenzo.
Whenever a defendant in a criminal case says something, we should all immediately accept that statement as the 100% unvarnished truth and not spend a second considering whether anything else may be at play.

Please send a letter to the judge explaining that there's no reason for a competency hearing or anything else in this case; you'll save Colorado taxpayers some money.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 9, 2015 - 05:33pm PT
Haha, well, he's got the same attorney Robert Holmes had, so maybe the guy will do better this time.


Insane or not, incompetent or not, he has a declared motive. He didn't turn right thinking he was heading into the bank next door.

So he's a crazy terrorist, if you wish.


Be sure and let us know how that hearing plays out.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 9, 2015 - 05:45pm PT
Trump is right. The problem countries for terroristic threat are almost universally Muslim dominate. If you have an ineffective system for identifying the Warriors from the peaceful you must shut the door till you figure it out. Let's call it for what it is; we have a problem with muslims. The majority of the u.s. populace are practical and believe this regardless of the attacks from the loony left. Trump scores, the establishment loses.
Gary

Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
Dec 9, 2015 - 05:48pm PT
And the difference is... Mono?

The difference is Carter was denying citizens of a certain country entry, Trump wants to deny entry based on religion.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 9, 2015 - 05:51pm PT
Goddamn you Gary. Your a Trumpkin-the Cranksore has spoken.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 9, 2015 - 05:55pm PT
The difference is Carter was denying citizens of a certain country entry, Trump wants to deny entry based on religion.

Ah, where did I ever mention TRUMP in my original post, GARY???


Hint... no where. Nor was he even a thought.


This is what I am referring to....



In other words GARY, the Syrian Refugees that the POTUS keeps telling us to allow into this country even AFTER the latest ATTACK in the San Bernadino where the current "Vetting" process is clearly shown to be flawed. Terribly flawed and obviously a complete failure.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 9, 2015 - 06:01pm PT
The latest news states that BOTH were "Radicalized Jihadist" long before they even met and got married according to the FBI's intensive investigation of their computers.


And, Tashfeen Malik was completely "thoroughly" vetted by the State Dept prior to being allowed a visa to enter this country.

“With respect to the San Bernardino case, yes indeed that was a fiancé visa, which is a type of visa issued to a fiancé of a U.S. citizen for the purpose of coming to the United States to get married within 90 days and I can confirm, as the department already has, that all applicable security checks were done for that individual, Ms. [Tashfeen] Malik,” Edward Ramotowski, the State Department’s deputy assistant secretary for visa services, testified before the Senate panel.












Jimmy Carter BANS ALL Iranians from entering this country and also IMMEDIATELY DEPORTS all Iranian Students during the Iranian conflict. All during which not ONE attack was committed here in the US nor was any American killed by the Iranians.

BUT the current POTUS wants to go ahead and bring over 25K Syrian Refugees into this country.

Priceless.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 9, 2015 - 06:06pm PT
Though I prefer Cruz at this point, I would vote for Trump gladly over the geriatric gas bags the left has mustered. Besides being proactive on national security, we might well need his bankruptcy experience when the service on the debt becomes unmanageable.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 9, 2015 - 06:18pm PT
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired Climber
Dec 9, 2015 - 06:23pm PT
That tashfeen was one ugly bitch.


Though I prefer Cruz at this point

Dude, Cruz associates with homophobes that think gays should be killed.
Do you think gays should be killed?
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