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wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 10, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
It is all about you,Chef.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 10, 2013 - 07:49pm PT
Tell us , mister know-it-all, what else was in the statement?

It doesn't matter. Non-tenured faculty at most institutions can be let go at any time, for any reason. It happens all the time.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Oct 10, 2013 - 08:00pm PT
So lets inundate it in a few hundred years.

As well as every other coastal city on the planet.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 10, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
Thanks Ed for the mild critique and elaboration of past avenues of inquiry.

Yes, i noticed the degree of uncertainty in the posted paper, but hey just add words like propose and unknown to the other qualifiers so prevalent in the literature. It's about time for the science and scientists to admit that there is much more unknown than known as far as mechanisms and effects regulating natural and the "proposed" anthropogenic climate change.

A few thoughts- we orbit in an outer spiral arm 30,000 light years (presently ?) from the core of an elliptical galaxy, no? The center is tremendously energetic, probably ruling out life near it, so since our orbit is elliptical it stands to reason that the 30,000 light year figure is highly variable and our position in the orbit regulates the degree of GCR flux as much as anything else. Where are we in the orbit in current time, anyone know?

Yes Ed, i'd read a synopsis' of the CLOUD paper. Svensmark has also performed more of his own experiments and see's positives as well as negatives in the CLOUD data as pertaining to his hypothesis. And what do you know, China is helping more than anyone else in keeping us cool by the negative feedback provided by their abundant release's of pollutants. Is Dr. F going to have to reverse engineer the LA air?

Getting back to Venus, does anyone know why the density of it's atmosphere is so much greater than Earth's. What keeps all that aloft yet bound to the planet rather than escaping to space? Mars has an atmosphere that has an even higher ratio of CO2 than Venus yet an atmosphere quite a bit thinner than Earth's-what is the physics responsible for the three planets difference in atmospheric density? I have a pretty good idea but lack the expertise for accurate verbal description.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Oct 10, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
Earth, Venus, Mars.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 10, 2013 - 09:12pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2013/10/10/if-all-you-see-916/
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 10, 2013 - 09:17pm PT
Whitecoat Conspirators- 1
USS Ludite Deck swabbers-0

dirtbag

climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^



TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 10, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2013/10/10/if-all-you-see-916/

much easier on the eyes.

What's with the obsession with f*#king barfing dogs?
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Oct 10, 2013 - 09:40pm PT

Oh.. that is you lying bitewad. Came from your Summitpost post. NOTHING ever goes away.

wow, back to stalking I see?
watch out, FARTMENTAL, mental midget over here might call your work place and try to get you in trouble. I guess being a decrepit desk jockey does that to a person.. makes them all bitter and angry at the world.

don't be jealous of others who actually climb, THE CHEF. learn to love yourself. it helps.
Leggs

Sport climber
Tucson, AZ
Oct 10, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
wow, back to stalking I see?
watch out, FARTMENTAL, mental midget over here might call your work place and try to get you in trouble. I guess being a decrepit desk jockey does that to a person.. makes them all bitter and angry at the world.

don't be jealous of others who actually climb, THE CHEF. learn to love yourself. it helps.
Wow.

This is PTC reincarnated.

Awesome.




Have fun, kids.

~peace
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 10, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
She has low self esteem TGT, doesn't get it often and she imagines that to be her partners response.

Ed, i was going to advance a face saving (for you guys) hypothesis based upon a mechanism for variable atmospheric pressure on Earth over geological time and a mechnism for atmospheric expansion and contraction in current times in response to total atmospheric content in the Earth system. Atmospheric density, much more than ratio of content, regulates planetary temperatures. The three planets difference of density go a long way to suggest this.

Is there any observations of the positions of the various atmospheric layers ongoing? With what kind of detail is average Earth atmospheric density measured and to what extent in this observed regularly?
Leggs

Sport climber
Tucson, AZ
Oct 10, 2013 - 09:56pm PT
Ed, i was going to advance a face saving (for you guys) hypothesis based upon a mechanism for variable atmospheric pressure on Earth over geological time and a mechnism for atmospheric expansion and contraction in current times in response to total atmospheric content in the Earth system. Atmospheric density, much more than ratio of content, regulates planetary temperatures. The three planets difference of density go a long way to suggest this.

Is there any observations of the positions of the various atmospheric layers ongoing? With what kind of detail is average Earth atmospheric density measured and to what extent in this observed regularly?


Dang, Gina.

I cannot wait for the answer to this.
Seriously.


~peace
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 10, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
What, not even curious? Permit me to transport all you hotheads back in time to the early 70's. Don't you remember your first Earth Day, the cheese, the wine, the pot, perhaps the acid? You were all young and energetic ( at least when you weren't to stoned) wannabe hippies communing amongst nature and discussing your lofty ideals? You guys had positive visions back then, before life got in the way, and negativity took hold. The hypothesis i want to advance was much discussed then, it was called Gaia. You might as well reaquaint yourselves with your youth because what passes as science from your quarter is getting more incredible with each passing day. Doom, doom, doom, climate apocalypse.
Leggs

Sport climber
Tucson, AZ
Oct 10, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
What, not even curious?

{{i was truly curious.}}
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Oct 10, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
who is/was PTC?
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Oct 10, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
who is/was PTC?

Oh dear.

Susan
Leggs

Sport climber
Tucson, AZ
Oct 10, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
^^ this is good.
thank you, Ed.


~peace
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 10, 2013 - 11:22pm PT
who is/was PTC?

Daria, she was here posting nude shots, which is why she's gone, I think.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Oct 10, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
They think I'm Daria?!
Yikes!

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