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philo
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Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 17, 2011 - 08:35pm PT
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Danny Zeidman, founder of Ir Amim, a non-profit Israeli organization dedicated to promoting Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem, said: “Allowing (Jewish) extremists into the heart of the Muslim Quarter carries the danger of turning a resolvable political conflict into a violent religious one.”
Which is the clear (and evil) intent of the Israelis.
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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 18, 2011 - 08:18pm PT
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So, Jeff, what's your take on recent democratic developments in Tunisia? And on the slow crumbling of the Israeli government, as it is co-opted by extremists?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jan 18, 2011 - 08:37pm PT
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Great.
When one of our nuke plants goes haywire we'll have no one to blame but ourselves and Israel.
OOOOOOPPPPSSSS!
No need to worry about that. If you can't write in assembly for a dead computer language.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 19, 2011 - 10:36am PT
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just finished victor davis hanson's "the soul of battle"...excellent; his thesis doesn't really hold up for patton, but that section is definitely worth reading for a look at how politics extended the war
the discussions of epaminondas and sherman are outstanding
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 20, 2011 - 04:01pm PT
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Not unlike how the AIPAC lobby shut down productions of I am Rachel Corie all over America.
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Jan 20, 2011 - 04:24pm PT
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Not unlike how the AIPAC lobby shut down productions of I am Rachel Corie all over America.
I'm beginning to understand why jews have been persecuted over the millennia.
Jeff makes one heck of a role model!
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Jan 20, 2011 - 05:27pm PT
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Fatty: You did not address MH answer “on the slow crumbling of the Israeli government, as it is co-opted by extremists?”
Diplomatic embarrassment
PA draft resolution: Declare settlements illegal
Lebanon presents UN Security Council with Palestinian proposal to declare construction in West Bank, east Jerusalem illegal. Israel absent from discussion due to ongoing Foreign Ministry work dispute
Yitzhak Benhorin source: YNET
Published: 01.20.11, 09:04 / Israel News
WASHINGTON – The Palestinians are making headway at the UN, while Israel's Foreign Service is on strike.
The Palestinians submitted to the Security Council a draft resolution proposing to declare Israeli settlements as illegal. Israel was absent from the discussion, due to strikes in the Foreign Ministry.
The proposal was distributed among the Security Council members, but was not discussed nor voted on.
The United States opposed the submittal of the draft resolution, and the Palestinian members had to make due with only presenting it to the UNSC members during a monthly discussion on "the situation in the Middle East and the Palestinian question."
The Israeli delegation was absent from the meeting following an instruction from the Foreign Ministry workers union. Israel's Ambassador to the United Nations Reuven Meron called the ambassadors of other Security Council members and explained that Israel's absence was not politically motivated, but rather due to an internal work dispute.
The latest crisis in the Foreign Service has left Israel almost helpless in the face of the Palestinian progress in gaining international recognition, culminating with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's declaration during his visit to the Palestinian Authority this week.
Show of power
The draft proposal, which was presented by Lebanon – the rotating Arab member on the Security Council– was signed by 122 out of 192 member states.
The proposal demands that Israel halts construction in settlements that are on Palestinian territory, and defines the construction on all lands occupied in 1967 as illegal and a key obstacle to a comprehensive, just peace agreement.
The Palestinian observer to the United Nations Riyad Mansour admitted that "if it was up to us, we would have liked to see the Security Council act immediately," adding that it was the United States that was blocking the move.
The US has repeatedly made clear that it objects to any unilateral step that might thwart efforts to bring both sides back to the negotiationing table. Although the United States opposes Israel's construction in the settlements, it is also against Palestinian attempts to drag other international players into the conflict.
US' Deputy Ambassador to the United Nations Rosemary DiCarlo stated that negotiations can progress only if the two sides engage in direct talks – and not with the intervention of the Security Council.
During the Security Council discussion, United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs Lynn Pascoe presented a monthly review of the situation in the Middle East and reiterated Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's demand that Israel stop all activity in the West Bank.
Pascoe added that Israel has begun building some 2,000 new housing units in the West Bank since the moratorium expired on September 26 of last year.
And Fatty: Sure you still hate Obama since it looks like he is on your side of your fence.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 20, 2011 - 06:47pm PT
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Sad about Rachel, what was she thinking jumping in front of a bulldoser???? Jeff it is too oft repeated lies like this statement that occasionally make me want to kick your ass.
You know full well she did NOT jump in front of that bulldozer. She was blatantly murdered by the dozer driver who bragged about a job well done.
Just once will you acknowledge the truth?
Not even close to sponsoring terrorism and nuclear bombs.
Sponsoring terrorism and building nuclear weapons... You mean like Israel!
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 20, 2011 - 09:21pm PT
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Thanks for the list of UN Resolutions AC.
Fats must be worried. He always sounds most assured when he is most wrong.
Hey Jeff, what is your take on the Gazan Doctor getting a Nobel Peace Prize?
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jan 21, 2011 - 10:32am PT
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January 21, 2011 12:00 A.M.
Postcards from Hell
In its online magazine, al-Qaeda shows its evil—and its desperation.
He seems to have achieved a kind of religious exultation by decapitating Daniel Pearl. That’s what emerges from a new report from Georgetown University and the Center for Public Integrity. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the 9/11 “mastermind” whom the Obama administration abortively planned to try (with the full protections of our Constitution) in a civilian court in Manhattan, was the man who did it.
By studying the videotape of Pearl’s unbearably cruel and barbarous murder (in a more innocent time — 2002 — Americans became nauseated just hearing about it), U.S. investigators were able to compare the vein structure of the hand that appears in the video with KSM’s. Though Mohammad had acknowledged being the killer, some had doubts. This report should quiet them.
The exhaustive examination, like a postcard from hell, provides new details that reveal the pornographic pleasure the murderers took in their brutality. The videographer apparently failed to capture the initial throat slashing. KSM accordingly reenacted it, this time decapitating the 38-year-old Pearl. Though the disorganized kidnappers had considered releasing Pearl at the start of his confinement in Pakistan, they changed their minds when they learned that he was Jewish. “My name is Daniel Pearl. I am a Jewish American from Encino, California, U.S.A.,” they forced him to say on tape before cutting his throat. Al-Qaeda later released the video titled “The Slaughter of the Spy-Journalist, the Jew Daniel Pearl.”
They weren’t finished with him, though. After Pearl’s head had been sawed off his neck, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his accomplices cut the rest of the body into twelve pieces. They then washed the bloody floor and knelt down in the same spot to pray — perhaps moved to religious ecstasy by the smell of American blood.
The video was intended as a recruiting tool — but its appeal has likely waned with time. Lately, perhaps reflecting its diminished position after nearly ten years of American counterattacks, al-Qaeda has been resorting to more conventional propaganda. The fourth edition of Inspire, the English online magazine of AQAP (al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula) was released on January 15, and while the brutality is undiminished, al-Qaeda’s encouragement to its followers seems strained.
For one thing, the magazine devotes a great deal of space to emphasizing the compulsory nature of jihad — it is the duty of every Muslim to wage jihad, they exhort — which may indicate that they are having trouble finding willing suicide bombers. Hoping to shame Muslims into becoming recruits, they heap praise on Roshonara Choudhry, a British Muslim woman who, after listening to tapes by Anwar al-Awlaki, calmly stabbed MP Stephen Timms with a kitchen knife on May 14, 2010. “I was trying to kill him,” she told investigators, because of his vote in favor in the Iraq War. Witnesses said she smiled as she plunged the knife into his stomach. (He survived.)
Inspire was moved. “A woman has shown to the ummah’s men the path of jihad! A woman my brothers! Shame on all the men for sitting on their hands while one of our women has taken up the individual jihad! She felt the need to do it simply because our men gave all too many excuses to refrain from it.”
Inspire hopes to incite its readers with photos of the Chicago skyline, and of the Capitol in Washington, D.C., with a twinkling Christmas tree in the foreground. Contributors like Anwar al-Awlaki and Sheikh Adil al-Abbab stress that in addition to violence, jihad also includes plundering the wealth of infidels through force or fraud. That they need cash is obvious. Awlaki himself says “jihad around the world is in dire need of financial support.” He soothes those with residual qualms: “Some Muslims today might feel uncomfortable consuming money that was seized by force from the disbelievers and would feel that income they receive as a salary or from business is a better form of income,” Awlaki writes. “That is not true. The best and purest form of income is booty.” Quite a daily devotional.
Like the Communists, who justified any crime in the name of revolution, Islamists justify any outrage if the goal is fulfilling their twisted vision of Allah’s will. Aware that they’ve been thwarted by American military power, al-Qaeda now greedily imagines smaller-scale attacks on American civilians. “Pull off Mumbai near Whitehouse [sic] till martyrdom,” they plead.
Perhaps, nearly a decade after 9/11 and the murder of Daniel Pearl, we’ve forgotten just how vicious our enemies are. Perhaps, after all of the sacrifice and expense of the past decade, we’re inclined to relax our vigilance.
Let’s not.
— Mona Charen is a nationally syndicated columnist. © 2011 Creators Syndicate.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 21, 2011 - 10:36am PT
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What a crock!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 21, 2011 - 04:57pm PT
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Europeans often fantasize about America's so-called Jewish lobby. Hardly a fantasy.
Edit: Shouldn't it be "IAPAC", or just "IPAC"?
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Jan 21, 2011 - 05:02pm PT
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Couple of other clubs you can join and see, talk to, and do for one fourth the price. Price for membership with AIPAC more concerned about money than dialects. The other clubs things get done.
What gets me Fatty is why have you not bought a ticket, joined to help protect your precious country that is in harm’s way? Help with or looking for underground passages under the wall? Is it because you feel that the US is the only country that you makes you safe.
You still collecting $$$ from the Saudi's.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Jan 21, 2011 - 05:34pm PT
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Your Brothers Fatty
Cable: IDF officials corrupt
US businessmen accuse officials at Karni crossing of taking bribes to allow goods into Gaza
Yuval Man
Published: 01.06.11, 13:04 / Israel News
A cable leaked by WikiLeaks claims Israeli officials at the Karni crossing into Gaza took bribes from US companies trying to transfer goods into the Strip.
The 2006 cable, which says "US businesses allege that corruption by Israeli officials at Karni crossing is impeding their access to the Gaza market", was leaked exclusively by Norway's Aftenposten.
The cable was compiled from sources in both the US embassy in Tel Aviv and the Jerusalem consulate general. It says that American goods worth $1.9 million waited at the Karni crossing for over three months before being permitted into Gaza.
The goods had been produced by companies such as Coca-Cola, Caterpillar, Phillip Morris, Hewlett Packard, and Motorola.
The businessmen cited in the cable said they were forced to pay commission 75 times larger than normally paid at the crossing. One businessman accused both the crossing's management and middlemen companies handling logistics of corruption.
"These businessmen have criticized the fact that calls to the phone reservation system for receiving a date and time to cross are never answered and that their discussions with (government) officials have resulted in only temporary (one or two day) improvements," the cable says.
Coca-Cola's distributor identified one "high-level official at the terminal" who headed the bribery ring. "Directly under him… are an Arab-Israeli, another Israeli civilian, and two IDF officers," the cable says.
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Jan 22, 2011 - 11:04am PT
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Torture should be investigated and prosecuted.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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i don't worry about the israelis because they're ready and willing to defend themselves; europe, on the other hand...
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