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zBrown
Ice climber
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Drive by shooting!
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Can we get an Amen for keeping the Korean Muslims out of the U.S. of A.
They're not? Can we get an Amen for keeping not-Muslim Koreans out of the U.S. of A.
How do you tell a North Korean from a South Korean? The ones in the South have slaves and the ones in the North have nukes?
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Rick, we already place many regulations, restrictions and licensing on cars and drivers. Why not place similar restrictions on gun ownership? Might that not help our situation?
zBrown, you have to admit that naming their missiles "dongs" was a stroke of genius.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Ding Dong. The witch is dead, which old which? Amen.
The Constitution does not explicitly address nukes, therefore these are left to the States and The Wizard of Odds.
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philo
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2015 - 08:02pm PT
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UhAccording to the CDC...
Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 33,804
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7
All firearm deaths
Number of deaths: 33,636
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.6
Estimates on number of guns in the US range between 250,000,000 and 310,000,000
Number of registered cars in the US is 250,000,000+
All numbers are for 2013.
Not to to boldly mention auto deaths have been on a steady decline annually.
And your point was?
And your point was?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Laws don't change willful human behavior. They never have and never will...
Ergo more laws simply enrich the law makers and add to an already absurdly massive tome of shite which already covers everything from Anthrax to Zoos.
Education is key in all things. The truth shall set us all free. And I'm a firm believer in cheap, fun, and effective firearms education as a result. That can and will prevent 99% of the accidental/stupid firearm incidents which is great. But accidental/stupid firearm incidents don't amount to much statistically.
People willfully killing other people will never stop, ever. The best we can do is try to understand if their are any common root causes that can be fixed.
I'd propose ending the absurd "War on Drugs" as a common sense first step. Think of how much violence that creates and how much money is burned shoveling sand into the ocean in the effort. If we could eliminate most of the drug related murders and remove this false economy it would be a good start. This will never happen though since imagine the amount of pages we'd have to rip out of that absurd tome of shite...
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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I'd propose ending the absurd "War on Drugs" as a common sense first step. Think of how much violence that creates and how much money is burned shoveling sand into the ocean in the effort. If we could eliminate most of the drug related murders and remove this false economy it would be a good start. This will never happen though since imagine the amount of pages we'd have to rip out of that absurd tome of shite...
That would be a great start.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Just in.
TRUMP LOANED SAY ED AND WHATSHERNAME $28,500 TO FINANCE ATTACK AND PROMOTE ANTi-MUSLIM FERVOR
He said [sic] it was a good deal because he also got a good interest rate.
Pledges to never do it again.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Is the Constitution a law or just a document?
Look what A2 has done toward changing wilfull human [sic] gun behavior in the U.S. of A.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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fear posted Laws don't change willful human behavior. They never have and never will...
Oh well. Debate over guys.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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John posted If, however, we had a firearm registry, we could trace how perpetrators obtained their weapons. This would help us close loopholes, and prosecute those who helped obtain firearms for those prohibited from their possession.
Beyond that, I think we kid ourselves. We aren't Australia or Europe, that lacks a long history of armed citizenry. We need to look at the possibilities realistically, rather than theoretically.
Australia actually has widespread personal gun ownership. What they don't have is a culture that worships them.
As I've stated previously, the first step needs to be something along the lines of mandatory registration with a background check with the burden on the seller to make sure that is completed. If it isn't or if you lend out a gun to someone you are responsible for what is done with that weapon.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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As I've stated previously, the first step needs to be something along the lines of mandatory registration with a background check with the burden on the seller to make sure that is completed. If it isn't or if you lend out a gun to someone you are responsible for what is done with that weapon.
Apparently you're not familiar with existing laws.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Reilly posted Apparently you're not familiar with existing laws.
There's a national law requiring gun registration and background checks anytime a gun changes hands? Do link!
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Dingus Milktoast
Trad climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 9, 2015 - 06:36am PT
"Laws don't change willful human behavior. They never have and never will..."
Seriously?
DMT
Priceless....
Some of the "strictest laws" in the nation ARE in this neighborhood.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
BTW, the TEC9 in the video, totally ILLEGAL, period!
And this "Grease Pistol" toter...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Some of the "strictest laws" in the nation ARE in this neighborhood.
Must not be strict enough or supportably enforceable.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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zBrown
Ice climber
Dec 9, 2015 - 09:50am PT
-"Some of the "strictest laws" in the nation ARE in this neighborhood."-
Must not be strict enough or supportably enforceable.
"Seriously?"
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Education and truth, not laws, is what what moves societies truly forward.
They recently passed more "gun laws" in CT. If you actually read the text of these "laws" you'll laugh. They're indecipherable and absurd. We had groups of highly compensated lawyers trying to interpret what they even really said.
We have enough laws, too many actually already, that cover the basic guidelines of civilized society. Adding more and more does nothing.
The constitution of this country was designed as a framework for a free country. Freedom does not guarantee "safety" and often runs contrary to it.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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I heard poorly made rap videos are good sources for public policy research true/false.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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(raises hand) True. in the world of the Chief
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