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Gene
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Huh? What was the mortgage on that place? I'm getting confused.
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monolith
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Karl, the tweeter could have heard the noisy helos because he was closer to them. It's not what he heard, it's what the compound heard that's important.
Besides, the tweet times don't look that far off.
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jstan
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Karl makes a point about the apparent lack of preparedness. A large force of armed personnel
could, of course, not be billeted there and still keep the compound sort of covert. But still....
Let's face it. Neither Bin Laden nor the US could know beforehand what they would run into. It is
also possible Bin Laden had reached the conclusion after all those years the US was entirely incompetent. Who knows?
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monolith
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A large protection force at the compound would have given them away sooner. They were relying on stealth in plain sight. It worked for a long time, 5 years. And we knew it wasn't heavily protected from sat surveillance, and I bet, on the ground observers.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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If the Pakistani military wasn't just ignoring or even protecting Bin Laden, I'm really not surprised that he would go unnoticed.
Really, does our military know whose who in a mile radius of one of their bases?
If you never go out, that's that. Pakistan, like America, knows not to bother people with lots of money,
Peace
karl
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jstan wrote: Bin Laden had reached the conclusion after all those years the US was entirely incompetent. Who knows?
Bush invading Iraq would give that impression.
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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A reminder of what is best in life for the movie Conan the Barbarian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PQ6335puOc
Probably as good as any summation of what the terrorists feel and from
seeing all the Americans celebrating recently at the death of Bin Laden
its what many of us also now feel. Cultural exchange? Why not.
Crush your enemies. See them driven before you,
and listen to the lamentation of their women.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Swimming in LEB tears.
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radical- He can't say nice things about Obama so he tried to pretend that there is some sort of liberal hypocrisy at play. It all sounds pretty desperate.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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I think it's fair to say Obama hasn't won SUAP over yet, despite being the best republican-like president in years.
Monolith wrote
A large protection force at the compound would have given them away sooner. They were relying on stealth in plain sight.
I was just thinking of putting up a fight along the lines of three or four Piton Rons!
Kinda funny that those Gitmo guys were made out to be so dangerous they had to be sequestered over in Cuba cause they might break out of high security stateside and go on a rampage or something.
Peace
karl
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nature
climber
Railay, Thailand
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chances are SUAP won't be won over.
but the beauty of its posts is as they get more desperate and incoherent you can use that as a gauge of how good of a job Obama is doing at getting four more years.
say it along with me SUAP - FOUR MORE YEARS!
YIPPEEE!!!
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WBraun
climber
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I doesn't matter anymore who's the President.
It can be anyone now, even your mother.
America has been OWNED ......
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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So who gets the US$25 million reward?
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jstan
climber
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Goldman Sachs.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Are the warriors who did the job eligible, or are they disqualified because in effect it was their job? Assuming that's the case, it would be a nice touch if the $25 million was still disbursed, but to worthy causes chosen by those involved in the operation. Perhaps even including some in Pakistan or Afghanistan - the symbolism would be excellent.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the 25 million if he's lucky.
I don't think he's very lucky
This in from the NYTimes
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/world/asia/06memo.html?_r=1&hp
On Monday, the Obama administration said that Osama bin Laden had been killed after a firefight with Navy Seal commandos, and that he had used his wife as a human shield. On Tuesday, the administration said that Bin Laden was not armed at all, and that his wife had not been a shield, but had rushed her husband’s assaulter and was shot in the leg.
Egan: Let's Clear the Fog of War (May 5, 2011)
On Wednesday, the administration backtracked again. This time it downgraded its initial accounts of a firefight that raged throughout the raid to gunshots fired only at the beginning of the nearly 40-minute operation by Bin Laden’s courier, who was quickly dispatched by the commandos.
What happened?...
They go on the explain how they got the details wrong...FWIW
Peace
Karl
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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"As it is, these SEAL's only pull down about $55K each year.
Ya butt they get to cruise around in cool choppers, shoot people with bitch'in waepons, jump out of airplanes, and ride is subs...and, and... blow sh#t up.
Seems pretty cool to me.
Cheers,
DD
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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It's reported that the CIA observed the compound from a rented house within view for months before the raid. (Pretty convenient given the sparse neighborhood he was in)
Has to be extra embarrassing for Pakistan that not only did they have OBL living under their nose but also a bunch of American spies too!
Peace
Karl
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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The Pakis' embarrassment is a case of alligator tears largely brought on by
laughing themselves silly all the way to the bank with all our billions in 'friendly money'.
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