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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Extra credit if anyone spots Sycorax in any of these "liberal" anti-science sjw meetup videos, lol!
talk about persecution, and perhaps I am at a disadvantage that I actually know Sycorax, but I think HFCS's accusations fall far from the mark. Not anti-science by a long shot, but perhaps someone who points out that there is more than "just science."
If science is held up as an icon, then she would be iconoclastic. Science should not be, nor does it aspire to be, an "icon."
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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talk about persecution... HFCS's accusations... -Ed
that's just weird.
It was a humorous remark. One. She can roast us "science types" literally dozens of times.. from beaker boys to hard ons... and I can't return the compliment?
Not even one time? ONE time?!
What an absolutely weird post. Yet again.
PS.
I'm sure if I took the time, I could dig up a DOZEN not so pro-science or pro-"science type" remarks by Sycorax. Not so polite either.
What's wrong with you sometimes? Or is just me?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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"Not anti-science by a long shot, but perhaps someone who points out that there is more than "just science." -Ed
lol
As if the rest of us don't know this already!
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Of all the ideas and/or issues to post up about - THAT one??!!
If science is held up as an icon, then she would be iconoclastic. Science should not be, nor does it aspire to be, an "icon."
How strange a comment. I could read it a half dozen ways if I wanted to. What does this even mean?
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I guess I couldn't resist...
One of dozens?
"Again, why bother arguing philosophy with someone who has little knowledge of it, Largo?Looks like you're going to the hardware store for bread. Btw, what's with the Ed hard-on? -Sycorax june 8,2017
lol
Hey it's my stalker jgill. Zero interest in f*#king you. -Sycorax Aug 30, 2017
I think I'll rest my case on THAT one.
and how about all the crude deleted ones on her part over the months if not years, lol
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Hey Ed, have a good one.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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11a at PG is notable for those posting to this thread...
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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So, I guess I could use a break from the substantive subjects of this thread today. So pursuant to this idea, a few points come to mind…
1) Ed, it seems you’re posting quite antagonistically, otherwise from a very narrow, rather slit-like perspective this morning. How come, what gives?
2) I don’t know Sycorax but by what she posts on these threads. Neither WB, for that matter. For all I know, tete a tete, face to face, they’re the nicest people in the world.
3) Ed, so I’m curious: in hindsight, you don’t see anything awkward – or “off” – re your first morning post on this thread, commenting on mine? In particular, in light of all the many and various potshots taken by your Sycorax acquaintance over a VERY long time? As I said, just curious.
4) Ed, so tell me, does Sycorax present herself in person like she does on these science-philosophy-mind threads?
5) So it appears then what we have here between Ed and Sycorax – despite the latter’s potshots at most of the so-called “science type” participants many many times over -- is a clear case of favoritism. I guess that’s okay, it’s not prohibited, but it’s just good to be aware of it, I guess.
6) Funny thing how we got into this (passive aggressive) back n forth banter just when I thought the thread was cleaning up some.
7) Correct me if I’m wrong: Gym ratings these days (eg, 11a) are rather soft. Aren’t they?
8) Sycorax, your last half dozen disparaging comments, are they becoming of a teacher (a teacher of teens no less)?
9) Sycorax, true to form, posts: “PR in marathon 2:55, better than any man on this forum.” On the forum? How can you be so sure about that? Are you this sure of things in person in your everyday vernacular and your everyday activities? For instance do you speak with such certainty and ego when in Ed’s presence? It’s rather “too cute by half” imo, but that’s just me.
11a at PG is notable for those posting to this thread... - ED
10) What does this mean? Meaning at PG, 11a gym climbs translate to 11a outdoor climbs? Or what?
"Climbed at Teneya [sic] Lake a month ago and flailed." -Sycorax
11) Rather vague don't you think? What route did you climb at Tenaya Lake that you "flailed" on last month? Name? Was it 5.11a?
Anyone here interested in getting back to the basic subjects of the thread?
Noon musings.
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Did anyone even check out the Harari Guardian article, lol.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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re: " too cute by half"
too cute by half: It is an extension of the colloquial phrase "too clever by half." This refers to someone who is so proud of their cleverness that they flaunt it, undermining their overall appeal. I would guess that someone who is "too cute by half" exploits their natural cuteness, therefore making themselves overall less appealing.
https://www.englishforums.com/English/TooCuteByHalf/xclcn/post.htm
I had to look it up to make sure I was using it accurately in my previous post. I was.
Even better...
:too confident in one's own (abilities, intelligence, perspective, etc.) in a way that annoys other people.
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/49107/origin-of-too-clever-by-half
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Here, science in action...
Cool video: The Moon’s shadow on Earth during the eclipse, seen from a balloon 100k feet up!
http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/high-school-kids-get-video-of-the-eclipse%E2%80%A6-from-32000-meters-above-the-earth
https://vimeo.com/236139202
Kids.
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Just learned the most heavily watched, most viral, Bill Maher Real Time clip OF ALL TIME is still the one between Sam Harris and Batman. Well worth watching again, at least once a year (Or once a decade? for the rest of eternity?)
[Click to View YouTube Video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60
Ben!!! lol
Sam - "Liberals have failed us." Ben - "ALLOW ME TO PROVE YOUR POINT!"
lol
WTF was Ben Affleck even doing there? Bill Maher is an internationally famous political commentator, Sam Harris is an intellectual titan of the modern world, Ben Affleck is Batman. Why was he even there?
https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/the-after-on-interview
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Oct 11, 2017 - 09:45am PT
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Steven Pinker responds...
Harvard psychologist Steven Pinker at an Oct. 3 faculty meeting:
The policy of banning students from private organizations is widely seen outside Harvard as exemplifying some of the worst tendencies of elite universities. It can only contribute to the impression that universities are not dispassionate forums for clarifying values or analyzing problems but institutions determined to impose their ideology on a diverse population by brute force. . . .
Let me be concrete. Those of us who engage in argument with intelligent people on the opposite end of the political spectrum often encounter the objection that the near-consensus among academic scientists (on climate change, for example) cannot be trusted. Everybody knows, they say, that university research is distorted by the political agenda of elites trying to exert control over individual choices. “No, no,” we insist; “Universities aren’t like that; we open-mindedly identify problems and try to come up with solutions.” A policy that is widely seen by the outside world as repressive virtue-signaling makes our job that much harder.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/notable-quotable-harvard-bans-clubs-1507675481
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Beauty... the summation of the parts working together in such a way that nothing needs to be added, taken away or altered -Italian painter, Carlotti
Greek kakistos "worst," superlative of kakos, bad.
American Kakistocracy
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/american-kakistocracy/542391/#Correction1?utm_source=twb
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Oct 12, 2017 - 09:39pm PT
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Ya know it occured to me today that the Pope, any Pope could shut down the whole Science vs Religion problem any day.
All he'd have to do is say,"... all those science ideas you have? God stuck 'em in your head. It's not you, it's him."
And BANG! Science could observe up all the facts in the universe and 'ol Jesus, or THE LORD, or Allah, could simply take all the credit. That's how it works in those gospels any way.
I'm not sure why someone didn't notice this a long time ago.
But hey, marketing, is my job, and I'm not bad at it. Pope's and Bishops, they are better at other things than marketing. They may figure it out in another 20 or 30 years.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Oct 13, 2017 - 04:34pm PT
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Nice art! Love the concept.
Note on my post above:
Yes, religion is about marketing. Religion itself is not organic. It is a developed idea designed to put order into the chaos of the mind and living life. It must be marketed. Who and how it is marketed is the thing to look at when studying Theology. More important than what is the content.
The development of Science is more organic. It is a compilation of observation. (when it is honest) Science tends to evolve from observation into technology. It can get polluted though.
Science gets polluted by; A. The news media that twists everything into controversy. B. Unethical scientists who are self serving rather than serving humanity. C. Economic and political powers trying to bend it to their completely created ideas.
In truth there is no inconsistancy between science and religion. There is only misunderstanding causing confusion and confused people. Confused people who don't observe or refuse to observe but attempt to stop their confusion with faith in various legends. They retard the advancement of our civilization by working to block others from observing.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Oct 13, 2017 - 06:09pm PT
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Black Pope? Sure, why not? There's already been a woman as Pope or so the story goes.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Oct 13, 2017 - 07:28pm PT
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Paul, Loveg... I believe you guys are wanted on the Mind thread!!!
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Philosophical question...
If a gate is closed 'at all times', is it still a gate?
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Oct 14, 2017 - 03:30pm PT
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^^^^^ Astounding!
Thanks
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Oct 14, 2017 - 08:19pm PT
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So glad you enjoyed it! Definitely made me smile and it stirred up that period in my life - around 10 -when I wanted to grow up to be an Egyptologist. Then, shortly after that saw Cousteau’s film of exploring the Red Sea and living in their base undersea. Too cool. Then wanted to grow up and be on Costeau’s crew.
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