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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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"Sharpen your wisdom, distinguish principle and its opposite in the world, learn the good and bad of all things, experience all the arts and accomplishments and their various Ways, and act in a way so that you will not be taken in by anyone. This is the heart of the wisdom of the martial arts."
~ Miyamoto Musashi
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Paul: How can it be latent as a potential without some pre-existent form or probability, that is, isn't its latency tantamount to its pre-existence if that potential is really inevitable?
Any apparent change presents a number of conundrums. What is the thing in question? How can one define any thing when it is subject to change (as all things are)? What IS change itself, after all? How can one thing morph into another thing?
On the surface, change appears obvious and apparent all around in every thing. But if everything exists in flux, then there would seem to be no-thing in every thing. Yet things appear every where.
When we watch a movie, old or new, images shift discontinuously, in a quantum manner. It’s only the mind / brain that makes fluidity apparent. It’s just like any dream that one has; things appear to be real, certain, obvious, and sensible, but after we’ve awoken, the dream looks illogical, fragmented, non-sensible, and completely immaterial.
Zeno was onto things.
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WBraun
climber
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God is the source of life and everything else in the entire cosmic manifestation.
The gross materialists all became atheists because they measured dead matter instead of life.
The gross materialists are clueless to the fact that it is life itself that animates matter ......
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Aug 12, 2017 - 10:47am PT
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Lesson 68
Love holds no grievances.
You who were created by love like itself can hold no grievances and know your Self. To hold a grievance is to forget who you are. To hold a grievance is to see yourself as a body. To hold a grievance is to let the ego rule your mind and to condemn the body to death. Perhaps you do not yet fully realize just what holding grievances does to your mind. It seems to split you off from your Source and make you unlike Him. It makes you believe that He is like what you think you have become, for no one can conceive of his Creator as unlike himself.
Shut off from your Self, which remains aware of Its likeness to Its Creator, your Self seems to sleep, while the part of your mind that weaves illusions in its sleep appears to be awake. Can all this arise from holding grievances? Oh, yes! For he who holds grievances denies he was created by love, and his Creator has become fearful to him in his dream of hate. Who can dream of hatred and not fear God?
It is as sure that those who hold grievances will redefine God in their own image, as it is certain that God created them like Himself, and defined them as part of Him. It is as sure that those who hold grievances will suffer guilt, as it is certain that those who forgive will find peace. It is as sure that those who hold grievances will forget who they are, as it is certain that those who forgive will remember.
Would you not be willing to relinquish your grievances if you believed all this were so? Perhaps you do not think you can let your grievances go. That, however, is simply a matter of motivation. Today we will try to find out how you would feel without them. If you succeed even by ever so little, there will never be a problem in motivation ever again.
Begin today's extended practice period by searching your mind for those against whom you hold what you regard as major grievances. Some of these will be quite easy to find. Then think of the seemingly minor grievances you hold against those you like and even think you love. It will quickly become apparent that there is no one against whom you do not cherish grievances of some sort. This has left you alone in all the universe in your perception of yourself.
Determine now to see all these people as friends. Say to them all, thinking of each one in turn as you do so:
I would see you as my friend, that I may remember you
are part of me and come to know myself.
Spend the remainder of the practice period trying to think of yourself as completely at peace with everyone and everything, safe in a world that protects you and loves you, and that you love in return. Try to feel safety surrounding you, hovering over you and holding you up. Try to believe, however briefly, that nothing can harm you in any way. At the end of the practice period tell yourself:
Love holds no grievances. When I let all my grievances
go I will know I am perfectly safe.
The short practice periods should include a quick application of today's idea in this form, whenever any thought of grievance arises against anyone, physically present or not:
Love holds no grievances. Let me not betray my Self.
In addition, repeat the idea several times an hour in this form:
Love holds no grievances. I would wake to my Self by
laying all my grievances aside and wakening in Him.
https://www.acim.org/Lessons/lesson.html?lesson=68
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 15, 2017 - 12:45am PT
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(With edits)
The Ten Suggestions
1. You could believe whatever you please about god.
2. You might try making many images of all things.
3. You could call everything by as many names that suit you.
4. You might try remembering that every day is sacred.
5. You could honor your family, and also the universe.
6. You might try not committing acts that harm those or that which you love.
7. It is strongly suggested that you not murder.
8. It is highly suggested not to steal.
9. You might try not telling lies about your neighbor.
10. You might not want to be a jealous bastard.
-bushman
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Aug 15, 2017 - 02:44pm PT
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Nice link, Malemute. Of course this is true, like one plus one equals two.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Aug 17, 2017 - 08:21am PT
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"The follow-up to Pinker's groundbreaking The Better Angels of Our Nature presents the big picture of human progress: people are living longer, healthier, freer, and happier lives, and while our problems are formidable, the solutions lie in the Enlightenment ideal of using reason and science."
Steven Pinker's latest book...
Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress
https://stevenpinker.com/publications/enlightenment-now-case-reason-science-humanism-and-progress
"Is the world really falling apart? Is the ideal of progress obsolete?"
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Aug 19, 2017 - 06:52am PT
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Pinker: "Is the world really falling apart?”
Who’s or which world? His world?
The world seems to be constantly changing from what I see, but . . . “falling apart?”
I thought those folks believed in evolution.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 21, 2017 - 08:49pm PT
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"The reason we knew there would be an eclipse today, @realDonaldTrump, is that science works."
Ha. What a d#@&%e bag!! The E-clipse today didn't happen cause "Science works"! It happened from a cause and then an effect by a programmed Nature!!! Science jus stood by and recorded shit!
But maybe, trumps lame lingo of "science works" could be conflated to mean ""Nature", Def: Matter distributed though the Law of Cause-n-Effect, with a little Luck thrown in.".
Who needs a computer to figure this shite out? The ancient Vreeks didn't!
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Aug 26, 2017 - 10:39am PT
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I am celebrating having crossed the landmark of 10,000 saved PubMed citations in Sente, my citation archive program!
It looks like this thread will cross that landmark in the near future.
What kind of celebration should we have?
A gathering in The Valley for debate, hiking and climbing?
PS: It is discouraging to see SPLC targeting free speech among Muslims discussing Islamic extremism. That is exactly the kind of process essential to workling toward resolving that problem from within. Thanks for the link, HFCS.
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Aug 26, 2017 - 10:56am PT
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HFCS posted; Why is the SPLC targeting liberals?
Just to clarify she is not a liberal; she is libertarian and works for the Hoover Institute(conservative think tank).
In the NYT op-ed she is criticizing radical islam but in an earlier interview with REASON (a libertarian site) she said ALL muslims are a problem. This "ALL" is the statement that is haunting her.
She has a great cause representing abused women, I applaud her! But she should recant that ALL muslims are a problem.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Aug 26, 2017 - 09:19pm PT
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With all due respect, you are out of your depths.
Just to clarify she is not a liberal; she is libertarian and works for the Hoover Institute(conservative think tank).
She is a liberal. A classical liberal. As she has stated numerous times, she associates with Hoover because the (regressive) liberal "think tanks" won't have her.
You shouldn't speak to what you don't know. But then again this is the internet, social media, a climbing forum.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 26, 2017 - 10:19pm PT
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Religion and science
And now it's obvious as they've devolved into stoopid politics.
Proves modern consciousness has and is devolving into the cesspool ......
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Aug 26, 2017 - 11:08pm PT
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HFCS said "She is a liberal. A classical liberal. As she has stated numerous times, she associates with Hoover because the (regressive) liberal "think tanks" won't have her.
You shouldn't speak to what you don't know. But then again this is the internet, social media, a climbing forum."
She was an MP in the VVD party ;the equivalent of the Libertarian party in the Netherlands. She fits right in at hoover from the libertarian point of view but not from a women rights POV .
They asked her in the Reason article "you are referring to radical muslims and she said "no all muslims are a problem' She needs to recant that and get it out there so she can be more effective in her needed work.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 29, 2017 - 01:14pm PT
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The absolute fact that God and the individual soul exist is not a belief.
Making quotes on beliefs applies to modern science also as modern science makes all kinds of beliefs based on their inconclusive theories ......
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