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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:54am PT
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^^Yeah as I said, earthquake is certainly more the danger.
However, there is a lot of chaos that surrounds fires and a possibility (slight) that someone wishing to obtain radioactive material for a combo "clean"/"dirty" bomb might be able to obtain some.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jul 25, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
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First time I've seen a jet doing air drops. We usually have the Dehavilland Scoopers which would have been more effective as there's a lake they scoop from 4 minutes away giving a FAST turn around times on drops. They can go low and slow but the jet can't so the drops were fairly ineffective from a half mile high every 40 minutes.
I think typically they have the aircraft dropping retardant (can't scoop that out of a lake) and the helo's dropping water (more precision)? This is what they did down here on the Complex Fire last month. And the jets, including the DC-10 were able to lay down big containment lines of retardant fast. They brought those baby's down to a few hundred feet above the ridge-lines. Quite something to see. They flew a small spotter plane ahead of each jet, and it would release a smoke signal to show the jet when/where to make the dump. Then it would cycle around and pick up the next jet as it approached the zone.
Took this from my porch. Reilly was up here with a real camera so he got the good pics, but he's over scaring the Swiss right now...
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 25, 2016 - 01:02pm PT
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Recent drone activity has occured over the fire in the Bear Divide Area. When drones interfere with firefighting efforts, a wildfire has the potential to grow larger and cause more damage. On the Sand Fire, an FAA Temporary Flight Restriction (TFR) is in effect and any private aircraft or drone that violates the TFR could face serious criminal charges.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 06:15pm PT
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here (leaving out the s in https makes in easier) or replace the {} with []
{youtube=WPedHJNQNUM}
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:54pm PT
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The Soberanes Fire ( Carmel/Big Sur) is up to 15,000 acres and only 5% contained. The smoke is sitting in the Reno/Carson and Tahoe Valleys ( or so I was told when I drove through it)
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 25, 2016 - 10:00pm PT
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Sorry to see that Placerita Canyon SP was burned.
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jstan
climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 10:10pm PT
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The intersection of Newhall and 14 appears a problem. Anyone for Kettleman City?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 26, 2016 - 11:25am PT
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Sherpa Fire was 7474 acres, Sand is estimated at 37,999 right now.
Station Fire was 160,577 acres.
Station Fire is still controversial. From 2010.
PASADENA (AP) — A wildfire that killed two firefighters and burned 89 homes in Los Angeles County, including some in Acton, might have been doused sooner if officials had not delayed aircraft from dropping fire retardant and water, a congressional panel was told Tuesday.
William Derr, a retired Forest Service firefighter, testified that the crew of an air tanker leaving the scene of another fire offered to make a retardant drop on the Station Fire on the August morning it began to explode.
However, the crew was told it was not needed, Derr said.
The retardant “could have been effective in quenching fire” in an area too steep to reach and that eventually burned out of control, he said.
Will Spyrison, the Forest Service’s incident commander at the time, told the panel he wasn’t aware of the claim that an aircraft had been offered and waved off.
Many of the issues raised at the hearing have been detailed in previous reports about the August 2009 fire in and around Angeles National Forest that burned 250 square miles
http://www.signalscv.com/archives/34957/
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 26, 2016 - 12:45pm PT
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^^^^ That's lite! If subpoenaed I could provide far more damning evidence than that.
A friend will be chairing a grand jury soon and he will be hearing from me. The Forest
Circus is such a bunch of liars.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Jul 28, 2016 - 06:49pm PT
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Oh Man!
Sad News. There was a fatality on the Soberanes Fire. It's climbed to 27,000 acres.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 28, 2016 - 08:33pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]While I watched, I thought, "Every cloud of smoke belching upwards probably represents one tree being torched."
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 29, 2016 - 08:46am PT
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It certainly seems to me that there are more fires this year.
I'll try to look it up.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 31, 2016 - 08:05am PT
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http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/4888/
35,000+ acres burned int the Soberanes fire so far.
John told me that the country south of Garrapata Ridge was avoided by the padres when establishing the missions because of the difficulty of travel in such steep country. And there were the Esalen people, who were described as "not complacent."
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