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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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It was the "root" of the scenario I was referencing, which was that the use of the medicine gave her a buzz, and when that source was gone, she turned to her old friend, alcohol.
It is FINE if you have the mindset you referred to, but you are in a group of agnostics and aetheists among those who have any number of spiritual paths. This is not a "Sobriety by Scriptures" thread - to create animosity, here, is NOT in the interest of the whole.
Can we all just stop on this particular vignet now?
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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People who try and force their god on other people are THE problem with much of the world. As far as scripture goes. it has been re written so many times for political purposes as well as mistakes made by scribes and intentional changes made by scribes that who even knows what it really was BINTD. Just storys passed down by a bunch of people many of whome had their own agendas and horns to toot. either you know god/christ/ spirituality in your heart or you do not. bunch of lies in a book should have nothing to do with it.....
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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I'm not posting to create animosity...I'm just sharing a program that has an 88% success rate. If you scroll back, it is clear who threw the first punch.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Thank God for your encouragement Jim.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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aint it a shame to go fishin on a sunday!
aint it a shame.
aint it a shame to have a drink on a sunday,
aint it a shame!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Amen Jim,
John 3:30-31 KJV
He must increase, but I must decrease. He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Illusion, you already got a couple friendly warnings. Others who have started things of this nature have been banned more then once. The mods of this site take this thread very seriously. So do everyone a favor and knock it off.
Regardless of who threw the first punch, here is a direct line from your beliefs: Turn the other cheek. By continuing this you are simply lowering yourself to a level that you supposedly despise.
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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A rewarding attitude is "moderation in all things". Especially sobriety and chastity.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Illusion, you already got a couple friendly warnings. unwarranted
The mods of this site take this thread very seriously. So do I. I'm very aware of this, and am not threatened in any way.
Regardless of who threw the first punch, here is a direct line from your beliefs: Turn the other cheek.
Amen, I'm doing just that...strike away.
By continuing this you are simply lowering yourself to a level that you supposedly despise. Not True
This is on subject and totally relevant:
http://www.reformu.com...the fastest growing, faith-based addictions program in the world with an 88% success rate at the Men's and Women's homes in Rockford Illinois. Glory to God!
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Pillowattack
Boulder climber
DC
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One thing I like about AA, is the whole higher power of your understanding. Alcoholics are notoriously stubborn, and I am no exception. I had to figure out my own understanding through searching in my own way.
Noone likes to be preached to, it is literally the least effective way of communicating because people just stop listening. People respond to others living a good and happy life and get turned off by pontification.
If you are living that good life illusion be happy with that. Now and try to spread that to the people in your own life not convert people to your way of thinking over the internet.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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I can do nothing...the program is changing lives by saving lives, and restoring families, to name a few. Again, my life is far from "good."
Incorrect. The third step in AA is:
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood him."
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Stop arguing here. It's just not the right place.
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Pillowattack
Boulder climber
DC
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Are you just trolling man... that last entry makes absolutely no sense. "I can do nothing" - that is some sick thinking. The only thing you should be powerless over is a 2nd drink. We get sober so we can live productive, happy lives. You sound like you are lost in the woods right now.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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"sick thinking", as if us addicts way of thinking didnt get us into the mess we're in? In RU we call it our "stinkin' thinkin'!
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Pillowattack
Boulder climber
DC
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And once you do a consistent 11th step you can trust your thinking again. Read the book man
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Sorry bro, no 11th step in the Book that sets my principal standard. 88% success rate, show me a "self help" program that posts those numbers.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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"I can of mine own self do nothing:"
I say in the program, "It's not about me, for that's the very reason that got me in the mess I'm in, IT'S BEEN ALL ABOUT ME!"
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