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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 12, 2007 - 09:28pm PT
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#1 above is called the G. Gordon Liddey method.
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Rocky5000
Trad climber
Falls Church, VA
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Mar 12, 2007 - 09:47pm PT
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This is becoming one of the most interesting threads in a while. So many different approaches to the problem, so many honest stories of defeat along with some victories. There seems to be no consensus on what works, therefore each person has to work it out for themselves, fighting all the way, of course.
I'm personally lucky to be not a very addictive personality - except in the typical hetero-male way of never being able to say no to a female. I tried once or twice and gave up like wet cardboard.
"What that? Pick you up at eight? And don't be late?"
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2007 - 10:12pm PT
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I appreciate all the support--it's unbelievable, really--and it's especially good to hear of other war stories (like from Roger B. and his Camel straights) about other nicotine addicts like myself who quit and are still alive. Today I've chewed about four packs of gum, eaten a pound or so of hard candy (the newest thing are red hot jawbreakers) and just got some faux-dip made out of mint. This seems to help as well. It's a grind but doable. But man, that's a really longstanding addiction I had have) going there . . .
I remember at one time decades ago I couldn't imagine not being baked at least half of the time, and that attitude totally changed. So will this . . .
JL
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Blowboarder
Boulder climber
Back in the mix
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Mar 12, 2007 - 10:15pm PT
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In keeping with the quitting spirit, I've sworn off coffee and alchohol. Two cups of english breakfast tea kept the caffeine headaches away and I managed to walk right past all the organic beans without snapping and buying a quick pound or two at the store tonight.
Plus I'm out of w33d. Being non chemically induced is quite interesting.
Sobriety is the new f*#ked up.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 12, 2007 - 10:18pm PT
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when I quit smoking
I'd get the sweats.
It went on for over a week,
everyday covered with a light
patina of body sweat.
I'd walk around thinking,
"I'm sweating."
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John Moosie
climber
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Mar 12, 2007 - 10:24pm PT
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Fear helped me quit. I had a major problem with coke, speed, shrooms, LSD, marijuana and alcohol. Two of my friends were busted and did hard time. I missed being busted by a hairs breathe. I Quit immediately. The alcohol was the hardest to quit as I drank either a fifth of hard alcohol a day or a case and a half of beer. One of the funniest thoughts I can remember having after starting drugs is " gee, they never told me drugs were fun". "They" being those in authority who were always saying drugs were bad. I guess it just never clicked with me as a young person that that would be why so many people became addicted. Jees, what a gumbie I was. I went from being basically a choirboy to a hardcore drug user in less then a year. In 1979 I spent over $5000 dollars on drugs. That was my first year of using drugs. I was 19. I was 26 when I quit. My last year I figure I spent close to $40,000 dollars on coke alone. I guess I shoulda switched to pepsi.
My recommendation. Scare the crap out of yourself. Go visit a cancer ward. Especially ask to visit someone with mouth cancer.
If you don't want to do that, then try accupuncture. Seems to help.
John, Good luck. I really encourage you to give this a good go. You wont regret the temporary suffering. I am sending you good thoughts.
John
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Mar 12, 2007 - 10:27pm PT
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Oh yeah - I just wanted to say "good for you!" to bvb too.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 12, 2007 - 10:27pm PT
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Largo,
the worst thing that could happen is that you will be somewhere and suddenly find yourself completely overwhelmed with an unreal nicotine fit so severe that you won't even know that's what it is.
That all your senses will say the situation is critical, a kind of paranoid claustrophobia will hit, your head will feel like it's floating, something will become a target and you will completely flip out in a hysterical psychotic rage, commit multiple violent felonies and spend the rest of your life in Supermax.
So don't worry.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Mar 12, 2007 - 10:30pm PT
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I have some fireman friends who are addicted hard. They are in a constant state of quiting/endulging, and mostly endulging.
Here's what I think ya'll should do.
Take the chaw and stick it up your a*#.
It's a mucus membrane in there and sure to absorb the nicotine. You don't have to worry about spitting or swallowing the juice. All your friends who thought you quit won't know you have a secret up your...uh...sleeve.
There may be some rectal equivilent of spitting that you need to deal with, but hey, that's the unknown and you're the pioneer. (proabably not though, I didn't search the net but I reckon all the kinky stuff has been done)
I figure the least you'll accomplish with this "Largo than Life" method is cut back on your intake.
After all, you can't stick a pinch between your cheeks every five minutes....!
:-)
Karl
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Mar 12, 2007 - 10:59pm PT
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Very funny, Karl. What does ass cancer look like?
I smoked for two years. I quit when I got pneumonnia. It was impossible to smoke with that crap in your lungs. After two weeks cold turkey, it was a snap to quit.
So there you go, Mr. Long. Catch pneumonnia.
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Anastasia
Trad climber
California
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Mar 12, 2007 - 11:14pm PT
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Karl,
Is this a new form of ass chewing?
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 13, 2007 - 12:45am PT
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Here's another "quiting" story for ya, John;.....So I tried to quit by biking across America;...all I did was spend 33 days puffing cigs across America;....BUT;.....not to give up....I tried AGAIN!....this time, North to South......Flew up to Seattle, took a bus to Blane, Canada, had my "last smoke", crushed the pack and all the cigs, and pointed the bicycle towards Tijuana, Mexico. This time I made it as far as Bellingham (Day one), bought a pack of Marlburo Gold 100's, got a hotel room , and filled my lungs with the sweet nicotine!......17 days later, rode into Tuijuana, had a smoke, and went back out to J. Tree for more climbing and more smoking. I think what finally made me quit was a combination of getting older (more scared of health risks), and meeting my wife (she don't need my stinky habit ...)..Nicotine;....powerful juju.....Again;... good luck, John.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Mar 13, 2007 - 12:56am PT
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Largo in 2 Days time.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 13, 2007 - 12:57am PT
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triple homicide
better yet - Largo might be the next OJ!
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Wild Bill
climber
Ca
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Mar 13, 2007 - 12:59am PT
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LOL, jeesus Juan, you better watch it. Don't you and Largo both live in SoCal?
Besides, you should be nicer, he needs a little support right now.
Here Largo, this is waiting for you in your sweet dreams:
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Wild Bill
climber
Ca
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Mar 13, 2007 - 01:02am PT
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Oops, wrong picture. Damn computer. Gotta check it in the morning.
Here, sweet dreams Largo:
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Apocalypsenow
Trad climber
Cali
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Mar 13, 2007 - 04:04pm PT
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I on ocassion smoke, always American Spirits. I can smoke these for two, three months and then just stop. Been doing this most of my life, and recommend these "smokes" to anyone trying to quit.
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James
climber
A tent in the redwoods
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Mar 13, 2007 - 04:20pm PT
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From the meadow it looks big but you climb El Cap one move at a time- One step at a time. Good luck shaking that monkey.
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rhu
Sport climber
AR
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Mar 14, 2007 - 12:57am PT
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Good decision to quit cold turkey. A study at the University of Minnesota recently put some weight behind this method. It basically says that when you smoke fewer cigs you smoke them more deeply to make up for the lower levels of nicotine in your body. The details are kind of boring but you can read the abstract here http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/ in the December 2006 issue.
I would assume that a dip functions in a similar manner.
My mom quit smoking a little over a year ago and it still drives her crazy sometimes. But some attitude every now and then is so much better than losing someone that you care about through cancer.
ps She does not have that ciggy odor anymore which is a nice little bonus.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 14, 2007 - 01:15am PT
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Kodiak;... the only bear you'll ever pinch........
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