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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 27, 2006 - 10:38am PT
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Lois? When was the last time you did something for the first time?
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Nov 27, 2006 - 10:57am PT
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Lois is a Kodosian sock puppet. I'd swear he writes half her stuff, or at least advises her.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Nov 27, 2006 - 12:13pm PT
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Congrats to Granite and the fool who started this thread. Neither of you have the remotest clue as to search and resuce, the dangers involved etc. Helicopters are insanely dangerous, just turning the damn things on and getting them up in the air is a major risk to all those involved. I loved the comment about "long lining" a body is no real risk.
You're both a couple of no talent ass masters. I have a feeling that Werner knows just a tad more about this subject than either of you two idiots.
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Nov 27, 2006 - 12:38pm PT
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So, LEB, when are you going climbing?? Just leave off with all that jibber jabber and get on with it.
JL
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 27, 2006 - 12:55pm PT
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As usual, Gary bats it out of the park...
Lois, just answer the question. Then take Mr. Long up on his offer. It will be a day you'll cherish the rest of your life.
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Nov 27, 2006 - 02:29pm PT
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LEB--
Have you rented your boots yet? Have you and Karl decided on a date? Time to reel those projections back in, cast off and come what may, Sweet Pea.
JL
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Nov 27, 2006 - 02:55pm PT
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Make an effort to read what people write.
I never said lack of knowledge was offensive. What I took umbrage with was the 'drop the rope' scenario.
And I expressed incredulity to the response to Kevin's grade description. That could have been C&P-ed from a dozen different places.
The biggest thing anybody ever got out of climbing is exactly what you seem to be avoiding and rationalizing away: doing something you didn't think you could, and gaining tremendous advances in self-realization through the experience.
I have been trying to offer insight that YOU have asked for, I'm not here looking for people to explain stuff to, but on the merit of percieved sincerity, I have tried to explain it to you.
But the bottom line is "No one can be told what the matrix is. You have to see it for yourself."
You want a good book for setting the foundation for what is so great about climbing, I'd recommend "Scrambles amongst the Alps" by Ed Whymper. It is more than a hundred years old, but is still one of the best reads in the whole genre. It's about drive, goals, exploration and the unknown. With a healthy dose of human comedy thrown in to balance the whole experience. The cheese smoking scene is a timeless classic. And the Mutton leg... Man, I should read that again!
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Nov 27, 2006 - 03:41pm PT
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LEB wrote: "A lot of folks around here are the indignation/shocked sort of person who huff and puff (endlessly!) about how things "ought be" or else how they "should be."
Correct, and you SHOULD get out there, tie in and cast off.
You'll get no different treatment from anyone here, and neither do I. Just as it SHOULD be.
JL
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 27, 2006 - 03:53pm PT
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Listen to the man Lois. What other new and exciting experiences do you have lined up for yourself? If Gary is right, then why not follow up?
But why don't we start a "Bug Lois to climb" thread with some Ouch cartoons. Others have noted that this is a wacky slander thread that might be better left to die.
I'm not posting here again. (unless I'm well trolled)
Peace
Karl
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 27, 2006 - 03:59pm PT
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I don't agree with any of this LEB bashing, big grown men picking on a woman. Just feels weird to me.
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:00pm PT
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You forget a lot of us here know each other in real life.
I tried with you, but you want to say I am huffing and puffing, well you can blow me.
You are firmly in the "to be ignored" catagory now.
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Werner, the world has gone equal opportunity while you've been in the ditch. It is considered sexist now to cut them any slack. No quarter is a sign of respect. I actually had a woman bitch at me for opening the door for her.
We are deep in the Kali Yuga now my friend...
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:09pm PT
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Don't you even get the pun?
Huff, puff, blow...
Bueler... Bueler...
I'm used to my humor going over people's heads, but usually it drags it's toes across their foreheads...
Ladiesmen? You couldn't be more wrong. We are a bunch of geeks that couldn't get laid in a whorehouse.
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mark_s
climber
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:13pm PT
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nice to see this thread ia already highjacked.
andanother, granite climber...you two are fukholes. YOUR thread is something that will and probally has upset her family and friends.
ROck climbing is dangerous, read ANY gear you buy.
its sad she is dead, but sooner or later were all going to die.
She's Free.
And you should have let her go in peace instead of creating this forum for people to read for now and forever. wouldn't it have been better to create something positive on the net for people to read you jackoff's
aloha.
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:17pm PT
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I'm married.
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Ouch!
climber
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:23pm PT
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My early years as a notorious usenet troll taught me a lesson. Boredom is fertile ground for creating an uproar. People are not as likely to respond to a baiting if they have something more interesting to do.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:23pm PT
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elcap fool
Hahaha, deep in the Kali Yuga now my friend...
Yes I agree. But she grew up before this so called sexist crap whatever that is, most likely feminism bullsh#t.
Lois is elderly and I believe she warrants a greater respect.
When I was very young my father instilled into me vehemently to respect our elders.
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:23pm PT
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JL,
What was it the man said?..... he said: "don't should on me." Seems to me that you are doing a bit of "shoulding" there and it also seems that it is "on me."
I'm absolutely doing that, LEB, since you won't do it for yourself. I won' give up you, LEB. And don't forget, this is not a charity or feel-good kind of site, rather a gathering of adventurers who often work against their own tendencnes toward complacancy, breaking outside of their comfort zone because that's where the unknown lurks a d the voltage lies. Remember, it's always a hard task to take back our projections, but we're all rooting for you till you either go climbing, or snap.
So have you rented your boots yet?
JL
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:27pm PT
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Not proud or particularly ashamed of the fact that I was celebate for almost ten years before I met my wife.
Sex ain't nothing compared to climbing.
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Ouch!
climber
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:31pm PT
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"Lois is elderly and I believe she warrants a greater respect. "
ROTFLMAO! Now that is the best troll shot in the whole thread.
Good go! Werner.
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Nov 27, 2006 - 04:33pm PT
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It is a mark of art to slap somebody with respect.
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Yeah, you have to find something to talk about over coffee, and it helps if you actually know the other person. Because once you are married, it definately isn't about the sex.
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