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pyro
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"When people say 'black lives matter,' it doesn't mean blue lives don't matter. It just means that all lives matter. But right now, the big concern is the fact that data shows black folks are more vulnerable to these kinds of incidents."
President Barack Obama spoke following the officer-involved shootings in Louisiana and Minnesota.
Obama used the word data!
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John M
climber
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Pryor responded..
Obama used the word data!
so basically you have nothing..
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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John m u crab!..
Its quite insightful but then again u think hillary is a perfect princess.. thats okay..but not really
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HighDesertDJ
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pyro posted Obama used the word data!
Ah, yes. Data. The real enemy to pyro's opinions.
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John M
climber
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"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln
perhaps you should pay attention to the above.
I have repeatedly on this forum said that I did not like Hillary Clinton... and even tried to discuss this on this forum, and was disparaged by my fellow liberals. I still do not like her. I believed that with the conservatives running that dipshit and dangerous egomaniac Trump, it was a perfect opportunity to get someone who was actually liberal and a decent person who hadn't sold her soul. But am once again forced to vote for someone that I do not like as the obverse is such a disaster. We blew a great opportunity. But then most folks in this country are as Werner says.. Crankloons.. ... that would seem to include you Pyro.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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And you apparently....
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jonnyrig
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...and was disparaged by my fellow liberals.
Welcome to the modern age. Dissent shall not be tolerated! I'm not picking on liberals, it's getting to be universal and it's disgusting.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Ill give Obama credit on one thing CHANGE..
He sure has changed the country for the worst..
Oh, he sure has.
Curt
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John M
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agreed JR..
escopeta.. your snarkyness doesn't become you. oh.. and its likely I won't vote for Hillary. But then in some ways thats a vote for Trump.. and I can't tolerate that.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Ill give Obama credit on one thing CHANGE..
He sure has changed the country for the worst..
What a bunch of utter bullsh#t. First of all, it's worse, not worst.
Secondly, what the president has done is to draw a lot of ugly white racists out of their stinking rat holes.
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John M
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Obama, the "Black Lives Matter" participants, and anti-cop dipshitz such as post on this forum are to blame for cultivating the culture that led to this tragedy. They are #2 on the blame list right behind the perpetrator.
utter nonsense..
the media is much more responsible..
Plus ts people who downplay the problems that minorities have that are a bigger part of the problem. when people's problems are ignored over and over and over again, they get frustrated. That frustration in most is expressed non violently, but in a few it becomes violent. Its not the fault of the non violent who express their frustration that some become violent.
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dirtbag
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climber
Occupied Territory
Jul 8, 2016 - 11:08am PT
Obama, the "Black Lives Matter" participants, and anti-cop dipshitz such as post on this forum are to blame for cultivating the culture that led to this tragedy. They are #2 on the blame list right behind the perpetrator
You know Jody:
It's possible to be pro law enforcement, recognize there is a problem among many (but not most) officers in their treatment of African Americans and try to find solutions. Most people are probably somewhere on this spectrum.
The "anti-cop dipshitz" rhetoric does nothing except push people into their corners or shut them up
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John M
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exactly dirtbag....
Jody.. the beginning of your list is just wrong, as dirtbag points out.
I am a liberal.
I am also for a balanced budget and gun ownership. Plus I support the police. Though right now they are out of balance. I also supported the Catholic church but was vehemently agains their handling of the pedophile's within that organization. It was beyond believable that they would send out known pedophiles to other churches and then turn a blind eye when those pedophiles would continue to abuse children. So one can support an institution while at the same time wholeheartedly disagreeing with some of the things that it does. I very much support the police, but believe that there is a deep-seated problem within it. That problem is a reflection of the problems within this country, but since the police are supposed to be professionals, then I expect them to behave as such, professionals. I agree with escopeta that they need to be well paid so that we can have a better hope of achieving that. Plus they need community support and respect. But they also have to earn that respect and not abuse it.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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With this change, all the other stuff comes easy......
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Obama, the "Black Lives Matter" participants, and anti-cop dipshitz such as post on this forum are to blame for cultivating the culture that led to this tragedy. They are #2 on the blame list right behind the perpetrator.
Bullhockey. Jody, this is the world you want to live in. Where everyone packs heat and settles their scores with guns.
With the country flooded with guns thanks to the NRA and people such as yourself, cops are on edge every time they interact with the public. That's why a guy with a concealed carry permit gets shot in his car.
I don't blame the cops for being trigger happy, I blame the NRA and the gun nuts who fantasize about the day they get to draw down on some punk.
It's your world, Jody. Enjoy it.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/07/08/newt-gingrich-white-americans-dont-understand-being-black-in-america/
As the political world waits to see if the former Georgia congressman and U.S. House speaker gets tapped to be Donald Trump’s running mate, Gingrich teamed up with his former Crossfire partner Van Jones to discuss this week’s shootings in Dallas, Baton Rouge and Minnesota.
Speaking on Facebook Live, Gingrich was his typically direct self. But, in this age of polarized politics, whether it be of the electoral or racial variety, Gingrich’s comments were also remarkable. Here is the key quote:
“It took me a long time, and a number of people talking to me through the years to get a sense of this. If you are a normal, white American, the truth is you don’t understand being black in America and you instinctively under-estimate the level of discrimination and the level of additional risk.”
White parents, Gingrich continued, don’t have to teach their teenage boys to be extra careful when dealing with police “because it’s not part of your normal experience.”
Gingrich wasn’t finished. He described moving from a largely integrated life as a son of an Army officer to Georgia in 1960.
“It was still legally segregated, which meant the local sheriff and National Guard would impose, by force, the taking away of rights of Americans. We’ve come a fair distance, now we have a black mayor of Atlanta, and have had a series of them in fact. We have John Lewis who went from marching on Selma to a Democratic whip in Congress. But we’ve stalled out on the cultural, economic, practical progress we needed.”
That lack of progress, Gingrich said, “creates the kind of alienation where it begins to become legitimate to think about, whether it’s in songs or slogans or whatever, the shooting of policemen. If we were to continue in this direction of alienation on both sides, you could really be a very coarse and dangerous society in 10 or 15 years.”
Escopeta posted With this change, all the other stuff comes easy......
Escopeta admitting that the government can be used to improve our country in this thread.
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dirtbag
climber
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I don't think I've ever written this:
+1 NEWT GINGRICH.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Well, we certainly didn't get much for our money now did we?
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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A clip of the the perp after he was taken out by a "robot bomb".
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