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overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 4, 2016 - 09:52pm PT
I have had 2 girlfriends in my life that were both victims of sexual assault it is one of my major violent triggers, pet peeve is too mild of a phrase to describe it. I have said it before and I fully believe that rape should be a capital offense and I would relish being the executioner

That said and I understand if he doesn't want to elaborate but I'm not sure I understand his story completely. Pennsylenvy, are you saying she was assaulted that night in Mexico or was a victim of a prior sexual assault?

Again I fully understand if you don't want to tell the story online.

We actually met once Tim, at Oak Creek overlook. We exchanged contact information and were going to climb sometime but life happened for me and I took a sabbatical from climbing for quite a while I hope you're doing well.

Jim Doty
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 4, 2016 - 09:57pm PT
Pepper spray? That's a condiment.

ROFL

Well said, and true dat.

I agree about rape, overwatch!
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 4, 2016 - 10:00pm PT
Rapists are the lowest scum on Earth. It's still chokes me up the lifelong damage that those girls endured
Adventurer

Mountain climber
Virginia
Jul 5, 2016 - 04:36am PT
Earlier in this thread, I responded to DMT's question by recommending the Sig Sauer P226. After reading several pages of posts by others, another thought I have is simply that in reality if I was concerned enough about the safety of a particular trail or area to consider carrying a weapon, I guess I would just find another trail or climbing area.
Bullwinkle

Boulder climber
Jul 5, 2016 - 05:08am PT
It's great that you're getting a replacment penis, lord knows you've needed one for a while now. . .
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jul 5, 2016 - 05:17am PT
Logical place would be in the top pouch of your backpack, right behind your head.


That would be logical......to someone that doesn't know what the f*#k they're doing.
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Jul 5, 2016 - 05:58am PT
DMT
Let me offer some alternatives.

1. Situational awareness will steer you away from trouble before it starts.

2. Manners, charm and wit can disarm many from an explosive situation.

3. Evasive driving skills can be a lifesaver.

4. Good running shoes and physical conditioning gives you options in the flight or fight mode.

I have several friends in Ak who have "The Judge" for home protection, but I don't believe it is legal in California (like a sawed off shotgun).
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jul 5, 2016 - 06:29am PT
Don't need James Bond

Bond's favorite was a .25 ACP. He was pissed when they made him switch to the Walther.
dikhed

climber
State of fugue and disbelief
Jul 5, 2016 - 07:53am PT
You guys do know James Bond is fictional right?
Coach37

Social climber
Philly
Jul 5, 2016 - 07:53am PT
Just stay away from the horse pistol.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jul 5, 2016 - 08:15am PT
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jul 5, 2016 - 08:52am PT
You guys do know James Bond is fictional right?

GASP!!
dikhed

climber
State of fugue and disbelief
Jul 5, 2016 - 08:56am PT
yeah, sorry
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Jul 5, 2016 - 09:00am PT
you need guns PM me.
dikhed

climber
State of fugue and disbelief
Jul 5, 2016 - 09:05am PT
Nice collection you have some magazines to turn in yeah?

muzzle down finger off

film shoot?
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 5, 2016 - 09:11am PT
If shooting the bear somehow doesn't help, you can always write about it for those who recover your body.

dikhed

climber
State of fugue and disbelief
Jul 5, 2016 - 09:15am PT
Probably fires a 22
couchmaster

climber
Jul 5, 2016 - 09:40am PT


I want to pitch an alternative. Not saying that a gun is or isn't a good choice for whatever folks are doing. Just pitching this out. For my wife and daughter walking around town, I bought the jell pepper spray Kimber Pepper Blaster 2 and for my daughter, a holster for it. It has some huge advantages over a firearm.


1st) Much safer to use. If used in a crowd at the bus stop, you have minimal worry's over deploying it and say having a bullet go through a criminal and hit an innocent. A marginal situation, say a young woman is being stalked by a creep, it's easier to pull out and use to become safe.

2nd) As it's a jell, it won't blow back in your face in a strong wind. I watched a young sheriff get some regular mace blowback in the wind that took him to his knees and totally incapacitated him. Much to his Sergeants extreme amusement who was standing next to me. The old guy just stood there laughing and let the pup suffer for quite a bit and resort to begging before he finally got the clean up kit out of the trunk. You can imagine that happening to a young girl trying to spray a rapist with mist if he's up wind (downwind?). Bad bad bad.

3rd) It's under pressure and will reach out further than a spray.

4th) Superlight so that trail or backcountry carry is less worrisome than even a small but heavy pistol.

5th) There so many layers of laws for guns (Federal, State, County, City) that you may be legal in this county or city, and a criminal just crossing an imaginary line into the next municipality over. This is much more legal and less worrisome. If you happen to walk into an event, get searched and it gets repo'ed, much less financial loss.

Cons:

1st) You get 2 shots. Only.

2nd) Not very intimidating.

I forget, but there's a 3rd con. Oh, here it is, (edit) there is a small segment of society that is not effected by sprays. Cops know this and see it on occasion. They have other tools and backup police when they bump up on one of those folks, you won't.

http://www.amazon.com/Kimber-PepperBlaster-II-Gray/dp/B004MG63X6

I don't carry one, but it's nice to know that they are there if I want.

the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jul 5, 2016 - 09:50am PT
The bigger the size of the pistol the more accurate it is, the smaller the size, the easier to conceal.

Also the bigger the size the easier it is to shoot and the less it hurts your hand (all else being equal). So for fun shooting / practice a bigger handgun can be better.

I looked into concealed carry a while ago and found you are more likely to die if you do it. They don't know why exactly but that's what the statistics say. Probably people who carry take more chances, go to places that are more dangerous, situations escalate, or they are just people more likely to get into sh#t to begin with. Of course that's different than just having one in your rig for backcountry protection, but it's something to keep in mind. Basically you should act like you don't have a gun, even if you have one.

Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jul 5, 2016 - 09:59am PT
I have several friends in Ak who have "The Judge" for home protection, but I don't believe it is legal in California (like a sawed off shotgun).

If you manage to get yourself elected, it would be legal. I bet a lot of you Kommiefornians don't realize that back in 2011 the Cali legislature voted in a law that said they are exempt from all the gun laws they pass for the citizens of the state?

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